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freebs2 said:
Turkish said:

Many a people will eat salt once Microsoft brings out games that won't be supported on their 2013 hardware. The Xbonex already brings Xbone games to 4k so what novelty would Xbox 4 add to that.

 

What the hell are you talking about? No one is reducing product lifecycles, PS4 Slim makes up 80% of total PS4 sales, and only 40% of Pro users(20% of total sales) are upgrading from their PS4s. So if you can do 1+1 no way in hell is this about selling more stuff to the same people.

Lmao at "an alarming sign of the console market decline", 7 million PS4s sold in the first 5 months of this year deserves praise, I dunno whether you live on our timeline or just  a very pessimistic person.

Not denying PS4 is doing great, the problem is its great sales are coming at the expense of Xbox market shares. Xbox One is not even 4 years old but its sales are yet comparable to 3DS, an old tired system that is about to be replaced.

Of course Xbox One X is going be sold to current Xbox One user and likely even to PS4 current users. Since Xbox One X is a more expansive product for enthusiasts, it's very unlikey its prospect users haven't yet upgraded to current-gen consoles by now. It's nominally an mid-gen upgrade, in practice is more like a cross compatible next-gen console.

How so? It's not up to Sony to sell Xbones, and 360 got sales at the expense of PS3 as well. MS didn't put out an attractive product in the market, it didn't sell, simple as that. PS4 is selling on its own strengths, the Xbox brand is terribly weak outside English speaking nations, it never would be a threat. The PS4 is gonna sell 100 million and more,  I dunno how much bigger the market needs to be. Games sell, profits are at an all time high, there's only so many households in the Western world where consoles can be put in.

caffeinade said:
Turkish said:

Many a people will eat salt once Microsoft brings out games that won't be supported on their 2013 hardware. The Xbonex already brings Xbone games to 4k so what novelty would Xbox 4 add to that.

 

What the hell are you talking about? No one is reducing product lifecycles, PS4 Slim makes up 80% of total PS4 sales, and only 40% of Pro users(20% of total sales) are upgrading from their PS4s. So if you can do 1+1 no way in hell is this about selling more stuff to the same people.

Lmao at "an alarming sign of the console market decline", 7 million PS4s sold in the first 5 months of this year deserves praise, I dunno whether you live on our timeline or just  a very pessimistic person.

Yes, this industry should produce 100 million dollar AAA games on 12 month cycles because WOW a new cpu came out with some extra megahertz!

Generations just mean a cut off point to leave the shackles of ancient hardware behind. The concept of generations never died, not even on mobiles, you have games and apps that are not supported on older hardware.

Generations also created a place where the shackles of hardware dig in to the flesh of game design and visuals, where developers are forced to leave out parts of their games because it would not work on ten year old hardware.
If they want to keep doing generations, keep them to a max of 3 - 4 years.

I dont think you really understand what generations mean, to you it's just a buzzword not fully comprehending what it truly means. Devs need hardware to target for multiple years, they can't do that every year, games take more than 1 year to create, it's as simple as that really.