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JRPGfan on 13 July 2017
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ArnoldRimmer said:

My favourite part about this whole ridiculous story is this:

"The woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Mrs. Clinton."

(Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html)

So there are two possibilities:

1. The informations that Veselnitskaya tried to offer to the Trump team were correct.
That would mean that russians did indeed try to influence the POTUS election - but unlike what's usually claimed, they did not support Trump, but Clinton! And Trump would not have won because of, but despite russian interference.

1a. They donated money to Clinton, so they could lateron hand it over to Trump, and go "use this, proof we gave money to hilary", and then win the election. Make use of our badguy image (in american eyes) and make Hilary look bad, while in reality "our" guy (trump) wins the election (and no one knows it). In return, when your father is president, make sure to lift some trade sanctions against us.  (quid pro quo)

2. The informations that Veselnitskaya tried to offer to the Trump team were bullshit.
In that case, there are again two possibilities:

2a. Veselnitskaya was acting on behalf of the Kremlin
That would mean that the Kremlin intentionally tried to provide the Trump team with false informations. If the Trump team had believed and spread that information, believing it to shed a negative light on Clinton, that could have been easily debunked as being false informations - in which case the damage would be with Trump, not Clinton.

2b. Veselnitskaya was NOT acting on behalf of the Kremlin
That would mean that there was no link to the Kremlin in this story, and the whole story is ultimately just another "big nothing burger".

added a 1a.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-criminal-probe-paul-manafort-campaign-links-a7771386.html

Donald Trump 'tried to roll back Russia sanctions the moment he got into power'

“There was serious consideration by the White House to unilaterally rescind the sanctions,” Dan Fried, who was serving as chief US coordinator for sanctions policy until he retired in late February, told Yahoo News. He said that he began receiving “panicky” phone calls from staffers in the State Department pleading with him to block Mr Trump’s efforts.