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Aeolus451 said:
zorg1000 said:

yep lets just ignore trends that were already happening before PS1 even released, that makes a whole lot of sense........

also what Sony games are you referring to that were so different during the PS1 era? again, you have to look at trends that were happening previous to PS1.

in the years leading up to PS1, developers were releasing more and more games aimed at teens who were kids during the NES era and developers were able to start exploring with new game concepts/genres thanks to 3D gaming becoming more prevalent.

you keep talking about PS1 breaking sales records never imagined, this is true for Europe which Sony completely deserves credit for, but in America/Japan the console market didnt see a massive change in trajectory.

America

Atari era=~30 million

NES era=~40 million

SNES/Genesis era=~50 million

PS1/N64 era=~60 million

 

Japan

NES era=~20 million

SNES era=~25 million

PS1 era=~30 million

 

Europe

NES/Master System era=under 20 million

SNES/Genesis era= under 20 million

PS1 era=~45 million

 

 

Sony's biggest contribution with PS1 was making gaming mainstream in Europe but the other things were already set in motion and happening with or without them.

Some nintendo  fans just love to pretend that playstation consoles never accomplished anything except with their sales while nintendo consoles are the greatest consoles ever even though they selll like crap. The changes weren't gonna happen without an outside inflluence like sony entering the market. Sega and nintendo kept releasing the same games they ever did. I was there. Nintendo still hasn't adapted it's game library to gamers. 3rd party devs wouldn't have released alot of the games they did without playstation consoles because of nintendo's treatment of them and attitude towards them. 

Stop trying to change the goalpost. We're not talking about only one geographic area.

He provided relevant data debunking nonsense and all you got is ad-hominem bullsh. lol. As if his console of choice somehow affects the numbers.

 

 

Aeolus451 said:
Chris Hu said:

Yes they did.  2D fighting games first became popular during the 4th generation those wheren't meant for kids.  Also the Genesis popularised sports games on consoles those wheren't meant for kids.  Also during the 4h generation you saw the introduction of the Videogame Rating Council which would have been completely unecessary if all the games during that period where kid friendly and aimed at kids.  Plus the the two attachments for the Genesis the Sega CD and 32X wheren't aimed at kids.

No they didn't. i was there. Kid games galore. It's what they were focused on. They were following ninty's lead. A handful of fighting games didn't change shit on the overall game libraries. Those type of games exploded on playstation and it was their focus. 

If you were there and still think what you're saying then you simply weren't paying attention. Maybe you were a kid yourself back then and thus could not experience the many great games catered to the older crowd.

Sony did a great job marketing the PSone and had a killer strategy losing out on a lot of money to get third party developers on board. But the idea that these people would not have been there making these games had it not been for the PSone is nonsense. If anything, maybe we see less of the shovelware we saw on PSone if Sega or Nintendo were the market leader and naturally saw less sales. Is selling a ton of hardware automatically a great thing now? Do many of you claiming the PSone is the winner here, look back at the Wii library and say it was amazing? I highly doubt it.

Like someone else said, gamers who were kids with the NES were adults with the PSone. It makes sense more mature oriented games fared better. Not only that, but technology improved. A game like Dungeon Master II on Sega CD was just as mature oriented as Resident Evil on PSone, it just didn't look nearly as good. How creepy would Guardian Legend from the NES had been if it were a PSone game? Every genre exploded on PSone. Doesn't mean they weren't already there before. Sure it had more mature games. It had more of all the types of games. Again, doesn't mean they weren't there before.

Like the rest of the correct people here, I voted NES. The PSone would be a distant second. I can't imagine how the industry would look if the PSone never released. Nintendo made some bad mistakes with the N64 they likely still would have made. I doubt Sega rushes out the Saturn if it weren't for the PSone, but it's still probably a nightmare to develop on. But the industry still would have been here. The NES actually turned the industry around. Fucking lol at the idea that PSone "saved third party developers". Give me a break. Yeah, praise Sony on one hand for all the expansion they achieved but on the other hand ignore all the problems that have come of that and all the hell it has caused for developers.

Dreamcast gets the bronze. It introduced the console world to built in Internet access and pay to play multiplayer. Pioneered the online world that now dominates the industry. Also has an exceptionally high amount of amazing games for such a short life.