Doe it really matter if God exists or not...?

[o_O.Q]

Nem said:

o_O.Q said:

 

"Morality isn't your highest concern in survival"

 

jesus christ i didn't say it was

 

"We are not the altruistic people you think we are"

 

lmao is this not the point i was trying to impress upon you? are you being serious right now?

 

"Tomorrow if an apocalypse were to happen, you can be sure we would go back to the rule of the strongest and band up in tribes. It's what we are."

 

exactly and i never claimed otherwise in fact this was at the base of my argument

 

well at least its good that you've stopped doing the whole "our empathy makes us moral" thing

Oh boy... Yes, that is the point! Morality comes from our empathy, wich isn't our number one priority. We make morality, our genes make morality, our will to survive and propagate give us morality, not some magical entity in the clouds.

lol we've just gone through how it does not

morality is not selective with regards to social groupings... we generally say that morality is the correct treatment of ALL people

you just admitted that empathy on the other hand tends to cause us to treat our preffered social grouping better than other social groupings

...jesus, its either that you don't get what morality is or you don't get what empathy is... or maybe both

 

the other thing is that morality does not come from genes, it comes from determining the best practices for man and distributing that information to the community in some way

that is, it comes from reasoning not internal biological systems