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o_O.Q said:
Nem said:

Of course we are selective.

What does this prove? We are a tribal species. We will empathise with those we consider a tribe of. Wich is why i used the tribe word in particular.

It's misguided? It's not misguided, its a survival tool. Of course we have the ability to have reflexive thought, so we can fight that urge if we so wish and extend it to everyone. That is our choice. Some people feel more towards another than others. As i said, this isnt an on/off switch. If we don't feel risk for our existance we can extend that empathy towards others if we so choose.

If you look here, you will see how it works with the pyramid of necessities:
https://mariaavilablog.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/sin-tc3adtulo.png

 

do you not see how that selectivity with regards to empathy kind of destroys its utility with regards to what people would consider morality to be?

Morality isn't your highest concern in survival. Its just one of them. Theres others that are more important. Only when those are satisfied do you concern yourself with it (or if its to ensure other primary needs). Rather than destroying, i would say its prioritising.

Are you trying to tell me it isn't that way? When the bully on the school attacks a kid and the other kids are cheering. Why do you think they cheer? The kid that gets in the way sometimes and stops them also had an interest.

We are not the altruistic people you think we are. Altruism, empathy... those are things that comes to us later after our most basic necessities are ensured, or in order to ensure them. It propagates more in the current (mostly safe) society we built for ourselves.

Tomorrow if an apocalypse were to happen, you can be sure we would go back to the rule of the strongest and band up in tribes. It's what we are. Religion was created as a defense mechanism for societies to not fall in chaos since policing them effectively was impossible. Also, because it made it easier to make empty promises so people would be motivated soldiers in war.