SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:
"feelings" therefore they are subjective meaning that they vary across people
how could you use something that varies as a measure of morality?
i realise that people use empathy as this catch all word to address the issue of morality and often it seems to me like they don't really get what empathy actually is
people are generally very empathetic to members of their own social grouping and far less so towards members of other social groupings and that all by itself throws empathy out the window with regards to it being a solution
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Are you going to.....
o_O.Q said:
"Both are chemical hormonic processes, might even be the same one.
They compel you to protect the weak and the young and coopertation in society to increase survival."
wrong
if a you pat a bear cub on its head and its mother seeks you out and mauls the crap out of you
the bear is doing that out of feelings of empathy for its kin... are you now starting to understand the problem?
or a better example since you'll say a bear is a stupid animal is as i've stated in this thread before
if 300 innocent civilians are killed in syria to kill 1 terrorist no one bats an eye
but let 10 people get killed from a terrorist in a wastern country and everyone loses their minds
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.....keep proving you don't understand what empathy means?
Also, cognitive bias, or the oxymoronic term selective empathy, isn't true empathy. It's hypocritical.
And you've completely ignored the altruistic aspect.
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i've not ignored the altruistic aspect... do you not understand that you can be altruistic at one level of analysis ( towards your country for example ) while being destructive at another level of analysis ( being altruistic towards your country at the expense of another country or the environment )
the problem you people that keep bringing up empathy and altruism are having is that you view these things in very very simple terms without understanding abstraction and context
for example we extract oil from the planet at great expense to the environment and to other countries to enrich our civilisation... but the oil industry is viewed as being altruistic because of the great benefits it provides
"Also, cognitive bias, or the oxymoronic term selective empathy, isn't true empathy. It's hypocritical."
yeah... because its possible as a human being to be completely objective lol
...btw its not so you shoud probably free yourself from that delusion
