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Cerebralbore101 said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"1. If God appeals to morality, then objective morality cannot exist. If Objective morality cannot exist then it does not exist. 

2. If God defines morality with his actions, then morality is not objective. If morality is not objective then Objective Morality does not exist. 

The only escape from this dilemma is to say that Objective Morality can exist without God. But that would refute your original point. Which is my point. :P"

 

well as i said afterwards i'm talking more about taking observations on which behavioral patterns are more productive and ascribing them to gods so these concepts can be communicated to the population in a digestible way 

In that case you are saying that people can't learn about objective morality without believing in a diety. That's a completely different statement from "If God does not exist, then objective morality does not exist." 

 

no that's not what i said at all... its a more complex issue than you appear to realise

thought has to also be placed into the best method for communicating these ideas