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Qwark said:
Birimbau said:

If God doesn't exist, there is no wrong or right. If God exists, there is wrong (what God diskes) and right (what God approves) and there are consequences for both.

Ever tought laws might differ wrong from right for humans on earth instead of God. Or an imaginary being if he doesn't exist. Life itself isn't pointless without a supreme being and humans should be selfconsious enough to differ right from wrong. It doesn't take a genius to see that raping and killing people is bad for society whether god agrees or not.

None of this are selfconsious. If you were raised by monkeys in the middle of the jungle, you probably wouldn't understand why you shouldn't kill everybody that treats you bad. All moral things that seem so "selfconsious" came from somewhere. Most of it from religion and philosophy.

Also, it's not a question about what God "likes" or "deslikes". It's so more complex than that.