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palou said:

 

o_O.Q said:

so you believe that killing people for fun can be ok given enough time?

I mean, even with religion, how could you say that god's given morality is OBJECTIVELY ideal? 

 

because over a long period of time we've observed what concepts lead to stable, prosperous societies/individuals and how the ignoring of those concepts have lead to the downfall of societies/individuals

in short the answer is ironically the same for our sciences - observations of what works over long periods of times repetitively 

and that's why we associated these concepts with the supernatural because they appear to transcend our limited scope of reality

concepts such as do onto others as you would have them do onto you