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Shadow1980 said:
betacon said:

They not just arbitrary designed though, without boarders the values you hold dear will mean nothing and even if they share all the same values no country could support taking everyone in, so everyone living in poverty is better? There's a system to apply for citizenship if you avoid this not only should you be deported but never allowed entry again.

"Borders," not "boarders."

And yes, they are arbitrary. They exist in the shape they do purely by historical accident. They weren't placed there by divine fiat, they are not natural occurrences, and there wasn't some international body that sat down and decided where those borders should be (like what U.S. politicians do when it comes time to redraw congressional districts each decade). The only reason the U.S. has the shape it does today is because of a sequence of largely unrelated events happened to occur over time that led to things being the way they are. This animated map of the territorial evolution of North America over the past 250+ years should show you just how arbitrary a line on a map is:

 

Countries expand their territories, or have territory taken from them, or unite with other countries to form an entirely new nation, or dissolve into multiple countries. Sometimes somebody picks a natural boundary like a river, or some specific line of latitude or longitude, but why that spot and not another? Maybe they just picked it because it seemed like a convenient spot to draw a line, or maybe it was an agreement between two parties on how to resolve a territorial dispute. Regardless of the reason, how those lines are shaped is mere happenstance.

 

Oh you're such a clever bee pointing out a typo, did it make you feel like a big boy?.

 

Do you even uderstand the word "Arbitrary" I don't think you do. Maybe do yourself a favour and look up the up meaning before you start rambling.

Arbitrary : "Based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system." ~ oxford dictionary