CNN Producer: Russia Narrative "mostly bulls--t right now", is manufactured for ratings

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Soundwave said:

TH3-D0S3R said:

Are you seriously going to ignore that basically 1 in 2 threads in this discussion are anti-Trump? As far as my time on this website I've only seen Trump been covered in a fairly negative way all over. This is honestly the second thread I feel I could have a discussion with being called a racist sexist biggot. So keep complaining about a point that doesn't exist. What's next, are you gonna bash the media for covering Hillary Clinton unfairly?

Secondly, there is no evidence. Since the logic in this country is innocent until proven guilty and there's absolutely nothing after 8 months of looking, what is there to find? The media themselves have said even if there was anything, it would have been leaked by now. Wouldn't the Russians want Hillary to win? After all, their economy flourished when Obama was in charge and Hillary had already shown her incompetence in giving the Russian government tons of uranium for their military. Why then would they want to elect someone who promotes putting America first and not the world first, seems to me they would have more to gain in the world approach.

There are too many flaws of logic and no proof to where I don't even know why people continue to present this. Just because they're looking into doesn't mean there's anything to it.

No the Russians would not want Clinton to win. Obama imposed crippling sanctions on Russia after they invaded Crimea, they want those sanctions lifted and Trump has many Russian friendlies in his inner circle. Chief among those sanctions was a crippling of massive multi billion dollar deal with Exxon Mobil. Guess who's Trump's Secreatary of State choice is ... Rex Tillerson, former CEO of Exxon Mobil, given the "medal of friendship" from Putin. But I'm sure that's all just a coincidence. 

Trump's "America First" is just an empty slogan. Where is the currency manipulation hammer he claimed he would put on China within the first 30 days of his presidency? Yeah he sure bailed out of that fast. It's all bullshit. He's a snake oil salesman he'll say whatever he needs to if it sounds like a nice slogan. Much like "Drain the Swamp" ... by hiring the most millionaire/billionaire loaded cabinet ever. 

You were never going to find anything conclusive. If it's hacking, Russia can easily just say "well, they're not affiliated directly to us, that could be anyone, it just happened to use a Russian script and be traced back to Russian hackers, but we don't control what they do". You think they're dumb enough to have some "official government hacking agency" that would leave behind an obvious stamp and they get caught red handed. 

Oh yeah, freezing US assets, that stopped Russia from invading Crimea. Obama's sanctions wouldn't influence Putin in any way, but they were harsh. Give me a break. Obama was a shill willing to sell himself out to anyone just to say hey guys, I did this (Paris Accords, Iran deal, etc.). Obama was the expert of selling the idea of making huge deals without actually doing it, he was able to be bought out by other groups in order to push an agenda.

To be fair, Trump has done quite a bit in his first 6 months in office. I knew he wasn't going to do everything immediately, based on how Washington works and for the pure fact that Congressional Democrats would try to push a lot off so things would go as slowly as possible. President's throughout history have not necessarily gotten everything done in the first 100 days (Obama sure didn't), so holding Trump to the 'He Has to Do Everything He Promised in the First Month or He's the Worst' is incoherently wrong.

Lastly, there's no proof. Nothing.