vivster said:
We have oficial statements from the FBI and CIA and we have a testimony under oath from an FBI employee. And we have the fact that investigations because of the aftermath of it are happening. |
I was asking for actual links to "sources where I can read about the details of those "proven facts"". Instead, you just mention vague statements and some testimony from a single person, without even mentioning what exactly those statements and testimonies are claiming or proving.
And I hope you are aware that the very fact that there is an investigation proves nothing at all - there are investigations all of the time, until the investigation is completed and an official final report with actual proofs is released, that proves nothing.
Sorry, what you've mentioned is simply far from being any actual proof - instead, I consider it exactly what I earlier called the usual vague kind of "stuff that, when repeated over and over, will make the audience subconsciously assume that there must be some truth to those stories, even though no evidence whatsoever has ever been presented."
I'm asking you again to give me links so some actual sources.
| vivster said: Of course you can call all of those people liars because you will never see internal documents of it but then it becomes a simple math problem. Do you believe the people who have very high stakes in this who are always lying and deflecting or do you believe 2 impartial government agencies who have no stake in it and are just doing their job. |
Hell, no - I already noticed you and other Trump-haters love calling this and that "lies" and "liars", but personally I try to avoid using those words, because it's shady to call something a lie. A false statement isn't a lie, it's only a lie if the person uttering it is perfectly aware that it's not the truth. But very often, maybe even in the majority of cases, the person uttering a false statement actually believes it to be correct. Claiming that someone is a "liar" or something is a "lie" is claiming that you can read the person's mind. Serious sources trying to be as objective as possible therefor avoid using these words.
Besides, it would be ridiculous to call these people liars without even knowing what exactly they actually said. Which I do not know, because you were extremely vague and didn't provide any links to sources...
@all: A new video has surfaced, in which yet another guy from CNN suggest that the russia narrative is bullshit, calling it a "big nothing burger"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2G360HrSAs
