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vivster said:
epicurean said:
The democrats were smart in getting their health care bill through, no matter who much it screwed the working class or the deficit. Now whenever it attempts to be changed/repealed/etc, they will always be able to say "millions lose insurance". That is always the lead.

Because millions of people not dying is a lot more important than anything else?

And I don't know why you make this exclusive to democrats. Remember that one guy who promised to insure everyone. He must be furious right now at the Republicans.

Vivster of the many people here I would have figured you to be one that took the view that humanity is a cancer upon this planet.  I know many of you will disagree but part of my mind, the logical part, really does believe that.  If we go unchecked living longer, thereby consuming more we will quickly, in a geological sense, choke the shit out of this planet. Then there is the damn empathetic part of my mind that really wishes we lived in a utopia where everyone was cared for and knew little to no sufferring and managed to find a way not to over-run this planet of ours.  I don't want people to suffer and die, but die some must to make room for the new. i used to think China was monsterous for thier laws on child bearing but i've kind of come around to thinking they had some forsight (or they watched the movie Idiocracy and it made a good deal of sense to them)