| haxxiy said: I do assume there will be an improved Zen on 14 nm next year, with improved memory compatibility and higher clock speeds. Since their 7 nm architecture has been renamed Zen 2, AMD might choose to call this improved design Zen+. But I don't think AMD has the money to redesign their chips intended for 7 nm back to 14 nm, like Nvidia did with Maxwell. As for 12 nm... it seems even less likely since it's a node without Finfets, that would probably be even harder to redesign their Zen chips around. It will be worth the wait for the 7 nm node even if it is months late, the front end of line is bound to be much denser than Intel's 14 nm. It will be close to Intel's 10 nm than GloFo's 14 nm was to Intel's 14 nm.
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Retooling chip designs for older processes is something AMD has done before.
For instance VLIW4 existed purely because 28nm wasn't ready, so they pushed their design on 40nm hard instead.
As for 12nm, I did say there was "Caveats".
It's also not a true 12nm process anyway. Neither is TSMC's 12nm process that nVidia is using for GV100.
| Captain_Yuri said: These monitors keep on getting announced but I am still waiting for them to come out already damn it. I need 4k, 144hz, HDR ready |
All I want is for one to be 30-32", 1440P, HDR 10-bit, Freesync, IPS, Quantum-dot, 120hz. Why is that such a hard task? :P
The temptation to get the Asus PB328Q for $800 AUD is strong. It just doesn't fit all my requirements. (VA and 75hz.) Also out of stock at the moment.

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