A wild Fatslob appears!
| fatslob-:O said: Needs more frequency and timing optimizations. With Zen 2 I think AMD will be golden ... |
That's my take as well. Frequency seems to be a hard wall that AMD can't push over at the moment, likely a result of being on an inferior process compared to Intel's 14nm.
The architecture should come into it's own now that they know what needs to be improved.
Let's see how Threadripper does with twice the DRAM bandwidth. For professional markets, servers, workstations, compute, super coputers... Sometimes more cores is better than frequency anyway.
| fatslob-:O said:
AMD should stop investing some more in the original Zen and treat that as an experiment that went horribly good like Intel's knights Corner line and start focusing on pushing out Zen 2 by 2H 2018 ... |
I would think AMD has gained a big chunk of marketshare with Zen, which hopefully results in some profits... Which they really really need to fund their next adventures and start getting their Radeon group back on track.
I would assume Zen+/Zen 2 would share the same socket, so hopefully they iterate often and substantually.
| fatslob-:O said: It'll be the greatest day for AMD If Zen 2 can hit 5 GHz, support AVX-512 (like Skylake-X/SP) and TSX while getting some IPC improvements when we can finally put Pentiums, Celerons and i3's on death row or at least reform them ... |
Software could also start catching up and start being heavier threaded also. I wish dual-cores would die a horrible death already. Some games won't even boot anymore if you only have 2 threads.
| haxxiy said: I think there will be an improved Zen next year with ~10% higher frequency and higher memory speeds, perhaps just before Cannon Lake if Intel's 10 nm comes relatively yearly, but I don't see a 7 nm Zen 2 before mid 2019, unless the improved Zen on 14 nm really is an architectural change. |
We should get Zen+/Zen 2 next year in 2018.
I think AMD's goal is to start iterating upon their chips on a yearly cadence now.
CEO of AMD, Dr. Lisa Su did a "Ask me anything" on reddit and stated they have a big team working on Zens successor.
CPU designs take a long time, Zen was being worked on as far back as 2012 and unveilved in 2015, so zens successor has likely been planned and worked on for a few years already.
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