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Turkish on 23 June 2017
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Lafiel said:
Turkish said:

Lol sweet summer child, brace yourself when PS5 comes out then.

Similarly the "genz are the deadz" is a nonsensical marketing slogan by Microsoft PR. I don't think platforms in the 2nd or 3rd place decide when a new gen starts or not.

The Switch is an 8th gen console as it competes with the PS4 and Xbone. The Xonex is a mid gen refresh no matter what Microsoft claims about forward compatibility, they will have a hard cut off at some point, no one wants to be held back by 2013 hardware forever.

What Sony has said 10 years ago is becoming true, this time they will really decide when next gen starts. It's a shame that MS instead of going early with Xbox 2, decided to ruin their chances with a $500 mid gen refresh. It's still 2-3 years out but PS5 is already set to dominate next gen.

I don't think it was really feasible to them to release Xbox Two before 2020. The 7nm node will go into mass production in 2019 and certainly be used exclusively for smartphone chips (highest margin) for a year, while the TSMC 10nm node that is rdy now is not designed for big chips - it's smartphone only. So a 2018 release would use 16nm process and either be really expensive to produce until they can shrink it down or not be much faster than the XxX now.

Additionally Sony put out the Pro last year making a potential 2018 X2 look less like a new gen.

Btw AMD might revolutionize the whole concept of these chips by 2020 by making CPU/GPUs modular and interconnected with the "infinity fabric" like their new Epyc design for servers, which can lower costs alot.

The Xbox 2 in 2018/2019 would sell much better even at $499 than what Xonex will do. No matter how they slice it it's a mid gen refresh designed to run Xbone games at 4K. I predict the Xbox brand to be in a lot of trouble in a few years time, the timing for their nextbox is already screwed. Releasing in the same quarter as PS5 is bad, releasing a year later is suicide, releasing 2+ years later: why bother. They needed to do what they did with 360.

My prediction for the Xonex is that initially sales will be amazing, all the Xbone hardcore will get one, that's already a few million, but by early 2018 sales will drop fast as mainstream/casual doesn't move.

 

AMD's next gen memory also sounds exciting, I read they'll put and stack the RAM directly on top of the processor, but I think it's something much further out and after HBM3.