Otto Warmbier is Dead.

[Johnw1104]

I think it's always important to try and be sympathetic even when someone does something very stupid, especially while they're young.

Being stupid can yield tragic results, but it is certainly no justification for being killed (or put into a coma; seriously, how did those sadistic fucks do that?). While I'd say I've never done something quite so ridiculous, there's certainly a list of dangerous or ill-advised things I did while I was young (and I know the same is true for just about everyone I know), so it would be rather hypocritical of me to just sit here and judge this man and his entire life for one stupid act.

Second, quite literally everything we know about this is told to us straight from North Korea, which is to say we can't trust a single thing that's been said.

Finally, if he did indeed attempt to take a propaganda banner home with him on a dare from his Frat, the only people I'd be angry with is the Frat itself; seriously, I hope they didn't put him up to that.

I feel terrible for the family... North Korea really needs to be brought down before they develop to the point that taking them down becomes too risky.