The Industry Is Stronger When Nintendo Is Strong, Says Sony's Jim Ryan

[DonFerrari]

Azzanation said:

Safiir said:

MS did not release minecraft on ps3 and ps4. They bought the IP after it was released. Portal 2 did not really have a significant online community so it's not like it matters much especially since steam is not a direct competitor in any sense. If MS was "for the gamers" they'd have worked on creating a bridge between the communities and not thinking of ways to inflate the xbox live MAUs.

Hmm lets see, because its an MS game so it should use the MS Network. If its a Sony game than it should use the Sony Network.

Sony gave a poor excuse and said there worried about there install base yet allowed cross play with Steam? Haha okay.

Here is a fun read for you, Dont argu with me, argu with them.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/06/sony-has-a-weak-excuse-for-not-allowing-cross-platform-play/

pokoko said:

At any point did we ever say, "let's talk about one country only and ignore the rest of the world?"  I certainly didn't say that so I'm not sure why you think you can come in late and move the goal posts.  You can't.

360?  What are you talking about?  I said Xbox One.  Reread my post.  Final Fantasy XIV is on the PS4 but not the Xbox One because of Microsoft policy.  War Thunder is on the PS4 but not the Xbox One because of Microsoft policy.  That's a much worse situation, especially with Stormblood  releasing for FF XIV right now.  

I'll say it again:  If you're mad about what Sony had done then you should be absolutely furious about what Microsoft has done.  There is no way out of that unless you want to look like a massive hypocrite.

If thats the case than MS are just as bad back than. Its stupid to block cross play especially with a stupid reason. The point is MS are allowing it now and Sony pulling out is the problem here not MS. Also Sony has never Cross played with Nintendo, only PC.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/were-ready-microsoft-says-about-xbox-one-ps4-cross/1100-6438654/

DonFerrari said:

So are you going to pressure MS to not demand Xbox live accounts to integration? Or that they open up for FF XIV and Warzone? Or that all 3rd party games are cross game?

And again you haven't show how that increases the market or the revenue.

Worse is that it may even be true

If its an Xbox game than they have every right to demand there network. ITS THERE GAME. Sony have shown they have issues cross playing with Nintendo and Xbox, its pretty clear. Where has all the Cross play with Nintendo been? Why has Sony only got the PC as there cross play platform in there history books? Oh right they have PSNow on PC, they dont care for PC but if its Nintendo and Xbox than its a no go. Sony want to hold an monopoly. The games you mention are in the past. We are talking now. Xbox are guilty for the same thing however again Past vs Present. 

Here have a read, facts are below.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/were-ready-microsoft-says-about-xbox-one-ps4-cross/1100-6438654/

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/06/sony-has-a-weak-excuse-for-not-allowing-cross-platform-play/

Clearly not just my opinion. I also live in the present not the past and look forward to the future.

Man you are talking crazy stuff, all 3rd parties are playable with the infrastructure of the platform, there is very few of them that make you create and log on their account to play MP (and I have done it exactly 0 times).

Crossplay between PS4 and PC was available even before PSNow even existed.

And what game would PS4 and Switch have crossplay? Games that doesn't exist? If PS4 is already doing crossplay on PC (without the need for PSN on PC) if Nintendo would allow/request the same there would be no roadblocks.

You can't even hide that all you want is Sony to bend over to MS.

And you are still to show how this would improve sales and make the market strong. So I'll take all you said as a empty attempt of an attack at Sony until you can prove your point instead of silly deflections of "I live today not the past". Guess what, the past is the only thing you can base of, if a company have been doing the very worse on an aspect for several years there is no reason to just make a clean slate for them just because they said now it's going to be different.