Mr Puggsly said:
Pemalite said:
You can take such PC's out of their case and transplant it into a new one.
There isn't a good APU on the market because APU's tend to be large chips, they are expensive to manufacture and people expect APU's to be cheap.
You are better off spending those transistors on CPU performance and get a seperate GPU.
Jaguar-levels of CPU performance for instance is unacceptable on PC.
The i7's aren't needed to crush the Xbox One, the console APU's don't have CPU's anywhere near that level. An dual-core, core i3 perhaps.
It won't happen, because bandwidth. Unless AMD's upcoming HEDT platform supports integrated graphics, which I I doubt. Then Quad-Channel DDR4 memory opens up a ton of possibilities.
They really aren't though.
One was built for gaming performance and leverages graphics performance over all else.
An AMD APU on PC however is meant as a balanced chip good at everything, master of none.
And that is reflected in their hardware capabilities.
I think the main reason why it failed is because... PC gamers just don't care. A OEM box that is to leverage a PC's software library was never going to be a runaway success. PC Gamers enjoy upgrading, enjoy building PC's. It's why companies like Corsair have such notoriety.
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I did a little research, there are PC Jaguar CPUs running similar GHz as consoles. So they're fine for PCs as well. Eitherway, if you bought a device with a gaming focused APU, than GPU power is more important than CPU power.
I think there is an audience looking for a simple box that's reasonably priced and essentially runs current PC games at decent settings, like at par with modern consoles. I mean look at all the options for pre built gaming PCs, there is a market. I thought Steam machines was gonna be the answer for that but it wasn't, still expensive.
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The answer is not buying a completely new PC every time you upgrade. If you just take a 4 year old PC and switch out the GPU with a $400 one you already have a better PC for a cheaper price.
Just because consoles force you to replace all of your hard and software with an upgrade doesn't mean PCs have to. There are plenty of components that last multiple console generations.
