Xbox One X PC Build: Can you do it for $500?

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Mr Puggsly said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Yea well if you are just comparing PC APUs to Console APUs, then what you said is fine cause the PC hardware market is different than the console hardware market. When people are buying a gaming PC, people are expected to buy dedicated hardware due to the nature of the platform.

Having a fairly strong GPU on an APU on PC would be pointless for the most part cause people generally intend to keep the CPUs for the longest time and upgrade the GPUs more frequently. The reason is that PC hardware moves very quickly but usually, cpu upgrades intend to have a smaller leap in performance than gpu upgrades. And the everyday workloads on PC generally intend to benefit greatly from stronger CPUs than GPUs but since consoles are so specific in nature and you can't upgrade really anything other than the hard drive, it needs to come with what is best for it's needs and that is generally the GPU.

And of course, most people wouldn't buy an i7 due to it's graphics but rather due to it's cpu horse power. The only reason it even has a graphics card is that many business use it for workstation hardware as well as many other things. It's why both Ryzen cpus and the intel's i7/i9 HEDT platforms do not even bother having a GPU inside them. So comparing the xbox one's GPU to it in that sense is kinda silly due to the cpu's use case. Cause that would be like me comparing an n64 to a 72 core intel xeon cpu and saying wow, the n64 is really impressive cause it has a gpu while $150,000 72 core xeon has no gpu... (Obviously, that is exaggerating)

I get what you're saying but it would be nice if we had resonably priced APUs on PC that were at par with X1 and PS4.

Intel has a higher end APU with Iris graphics but its in expensive devices and still junk for modern gaming.

APUs are mainly an AMD thing because most AMD cpus do not have GPUs inside however the AMD CPUs that do have GPUs inside are stronger than the usual GPUs that are known to be inside CPUs and that is why AMD calls them APUs. Intel does not actually call their cpus APUs even if they have GPUs inside them hence why post people do not actually call intel cpus, APUs even though intel i7s have GPUs inside them...

And again, the reason why intel has GPUs inside their CPUs are due to Workstation and Not gaming....

Intel Iris sucks at gaming because it the reason it exists is cause it accelerates tasks in other parts instead such as Video Encoding with intel QuickSync. It is Not meant for... Again... Gaming.... The reason why it is considered higher "end" gpu in the intel's cpu lineup is because it has more accelerators that help companies do their workstation grade tasks such as photoshop and video encoding without needing to buy an additional GPU. 

Again, the comparsion is silly and that would be like me comparing an n64 to a 72 core intel xeon cpu and saying wow, the n64 is really impressive cause it has a gpu while $150,000 72 core xeon has no gpu...

I don't have any issues comparing xbox one to the usual pc apus which are the AMD A10 series for example, but when you go comparing to high end cpus which have GPUs that aren't even meant for gaming... It is really just silly