PS4 Pro Holding back Xbox One X???

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DonFerrari said:

So it could be 10% or 50% more powerfull for all we know.

And we don't know if or how much the PS4Pro improved over the PS4 besides the clock right?

But sure I do agree that no matter the situation X1X will probably be capable of running more frames at better resolution and with more IQ unless dev doesn't care the least when doing his job.

Pretty much. Microsoft did performance profiling of the most popular game engines, so I would assume something like Frostbite or Unreal Engine should see some of the biggest gains, whilst newer custom engines could see lesser boosts. We need more information and more precedents to know just how much those gains are though.

Going over the low-level details on the Playstation 4 Pro and how long it's been on the market, the clock rate is indeed it's main improvement over the base Playstation 4. That's not to say there isn't some hidden secret sauce, it's just highly unlikely to be the case this late in the game.

Essentially in terms of CPU performance it's Xbox One X > Playstation 4 Pro > Xbox One S (If a game uses the slightly faster eSRAM for CPU tasks.) > Xbox One > Playstation 4.

We need more games to get a good idea of what developers are going to push on the Xbox One X overall compared to the Playstation 4 Pro, it's way to early to call anything definitively just yet.
But one thing is for sure, the Xbox One X is not going to have all games at 4k, 60fps and that was expected from it's initial teaser reveal over a year ago.

Azzanation said:

I stated long ago that X1X will render every 1st party Xbox game in 4k while keeping the framerate the same as the orginal. Just like Phil said it will do.

FInd me a post where i stated Scorpio will run everything in 4k/60?

I think the bulk of 1st party Xbox games will achieve a proper 4k target. But any games pushing a degree of fidelity and 60fps would probably fall short of such a target.
The hardware just isn't powerful enough.

For instance if Halo 6 continues with it's E-Sports focus in Multiplayer with significantly bolstered graphics... Then I would expect something sub-4k but with frame reconstruction/checkerboarding to achieve it's "fake" 4k.