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Nuvendil on 13 June 2017
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Soundwave said:
Nuvendil said:

Even though two of those were him and literally NO ONE else vs the undisputed most talented teams of their years?  Jordan by himself wouldn't have stood a chance either.  Just look at the few times he dragged the Bulls to the Playoffs alone, he got obliterated.   Jordan never had to face those two circumstances.  Lebron has like two or three losses that you can hold against him.

And even getting the finals this many times is an accomplishment very few players can even claim. 

But yeah, keep counting rings. 

Making it through the LEastern Conference is no big accoplishment.

And yet despite numerous weak periods in the history of both conferences, I can think of no other player to single handedly make it to the Finals.  And with a team that was the second worst in the history of the League without their star.  Jordan's bulls were bad, but not nearly that bad. 

But when I look at GOAT, I loook at single accomplishments more than rings because both your record and your own performance are affected by that.  Jordan never faced a finals ever without Hall of Fame callibur help.  He never made it to the Conference Finals without Hall of Famers iirc.  This isn't a nock on Jordan, it's a reality of team sports.

But I don't have Lebron in the top 3 either.  Kareem, Jordan, and Wilt are still above him.  And if I'm putting anyone against Jordan, it's 110% going to be Wilt Chamberlain (mainly because the more I study him, the more I am convinced he isn't human).  LeBron is in between them and Kobe, Magic, Bird, Russell, etc etc etc. We'll have to see how he finishes out.  I think he and the Cavs have the potential in them to beat these Warriors.  But it's going to be hard work and take a lot of grit and determination they didn't show  in games 1 through 3.  They have the skill, but you gotta have the hunger to go with it.