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FentonCrackshell said:
bonzobanana said:
The ps4 pro is a costed design, they didn't spend too much money on the overhaul to get 4k. The xbox one X is basically not a costed design and will cost a lot more to make so while the xbox one x is a more powerful console it will really struggle to get close to the ps4 pro pricing. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a ratio of 10:1 of ps4 pros for every single xbox one x sold.

But really its down to marketing Sony hasn't really pushed the pro its been more ps4 marketing in general where as the xbox one X marketing I reckon will be better but if you do that then the standard xbox one will suffer and fallback even faster compared to the standard ps4.

I'm more than happy with my xbox one for now though and I won't be tempted to go for the X model I think for a long time even though I have a 4k tv. I use my xbox one a lot but it plays second fiddle to the ps4.

See, I think the X1X will outsell the PS4 Pro when it releases. But to be honest I don't think the difference will be so uncanny that you'll see the benefit of having the more powerful console. I can see the difference between my old PS4 and my PS4 Pro. But I anxious to see the difference between the PS4 Pro and the X1X.

You could be right as its about marketing and perception of the consumer but I think if they really do push the X the standard xbox one will suffer even more against the ps4. I don't think Sony wanted to say the ps4 pro is the much better console because they knew that would stall sales of the standard model. I think they will be happy with the 5:1 ratio because the lower price model is really what is going to push console sales which means software sales and of course psn plus subscriptions which is where the real money is. Ultimately they provide 2 performance levels to get people into the sony playstation ecosystem spending money. Microsoft are doing the same  but their higher performance level is not at a mass market price so you end up with a small userbase of high spending consumers and the majority owning the lower performance console feeling like they are an underclass of consumers.

I just wonder if the ps4 pro has actually hit the right level of offering a resolution upgrade at a small premium which doesn't alienate existing ps4 owners but the xbox one X hasn't.