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thismeintiel on 12 June 2017
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RolStoppable said:
I disagree about your portrayed narrative before E3. The VGC consensus was that the Xbox One is dead and buried, and the only remaining question was if we should spit or dance on its grave.

I wasn't talking about VGC, in general, but mostly Xbox fans.  And not just the diehards.  Quite a few of them thought this would be like a soft reboot of the brand.  $399 price to appeal to the masses, with a few AAA exclusives announced to push the system.  That didn't happen.

irstupid said:
drkohler said:
I think they were somewhat outmaneuvered by Sony.
It was said that Sony had acquired most of the advertising rights for the "cool 3rd party stuff". That seems true as we didn't see a single trailer of all those games at the presentation. In the end, the whole thing appeared somewhat barren of "cool stuff". 2D side scrollers, cartoonish stuff, and for heaven's sake: Minecraft, weren't really the right stuff to show 4k superiority. So it didn't help at all that most of the stuff they did show is easily reproducible on a PS4 Pro with the same perceived quality.
It will be interesting to see what Sony does today. If they fall into the "show all the cool 3rd party stuff" trap then XBox fans can simply add "...and it will look better on the X" (and probably be right in some cases).

Well I woudl argue that Anthem looked like what is probably the coolest game I imagine we will see all E3.

And that is coming from someone that can probably guarantee you that I will not even get the game.

Hiku said:

Well there are two ways to look at it.

For current Xbox owners, I think it was a pretty good showing. They focused on showeing game after game and spent little time talking. Hell, it was a good showing for PS4 owners as well.

But for potential Xbox customers and expanding the brand, you'd expect they would do more to promote Xbox One X at least with some new first party games designed to make the most out of the system.

But kind of the same situation that the Pro had. Can't really show off new games fro the system without alienating your prior systems. This is a mid-gen console, so all games will still work on prior consoles. Thus doesn' thave the "wow"

I mean when watching all the trailers this E3 for Sony or MS, one has to realize that they will be using the Pro or the X to showcase, or even a PC enhanced version. Thus the majority of gamers out there are being "lied" to in a way. Watching some smooth 4k 60fps visuals when I get it on my slim or one, it will be 900/720 and 22 fps or some junk.

But that is the problem with this midgen stuff that fans have been clamoring for. They all want their iphone yearly updates and s's for consoles i guess.

Anthem did look nice.  Of course, they ended their conference that was supposed to showcase why you need an Xbox with a multiplat, which says it all.  And I don't even think they announced anything that was exclusive about it, either.  Content or DLC.

As for the 2nd part, I think that is why Sony did its own event for it.  It was a much smarter way to go about it.  This was E3.  This is where MS needed to pull out all the stops.  Go all in.  Make people need the Scorpio.  I think it's just obvious they really don't care whether it succeeds or fails.  If it does fail, they'll switch even more focus to Windows gaming.  They just want to make some profit on it while it's available, not try to rebuild the Xbox brand.

Tulipanzo said:

I've said this already, their marketing strategies for their mid-gen refreshes have been very different: 

Sony: "We are still committed to the PS4, the Pro is just an addition. If you're interested, here's Mark Cerny talking softly about checker-boarding for an hour"


MS: "It's the next-gen step in gaming! The definitive XBox console and the right way to play! WITNESS THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVER!!!!! $499!!!"

A guess as to which has resulted in lower sales for its base hardware

Except all of those games are also available on the XBO S.  And they are having a sale on that with quite a few models marked down to $249.  That should lead to a resurgence of sales, not the same or less.  Also, the $499 price is a turn off the mass consumer.  So, a $249 XBO S that plays the same games would be more appealing.