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thismeintiel on 12 June 2017
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Superman4 said:
Arkaign said:

That brings up an interesting point, but it's not necessarily a great thing for Xbox.

PS4P is enough to run games at upscaled 4K @ 30FPS outside of special situations like racing games and other lightweight stuff.

X1X is enough to run at native 4K @ 30FPS outside of the same special situations.

However, X1X as well as PS4P are hobbled by fairly awful Jaguar CPUs, which will continue the heavy low-FPS in major stuff like Destiny, Wildlands, Shadow of War, almost certainly RDR2, etc.

So the 'power' gamers would be more likely to just go to PC and play at 60FPS+ right?

In that way, a hypothetical $599 X1X that used a Ryzen CPU but otherwise identical, good enough for 4K/60 in basically everything, might have actually been a better move. A slightly better 4K vs. upscaled 4K box is not a real game-changer. At all. When the flood of 4K/30 stuff keeps piling in, it doesn't seem all thaht exciting in the big picture. I'd rather have 1080/60 to be honest if given the choice, but that's not an option because of CPU limitations in many major titles. Small scale FPS and racing along with indies seem to dominate the 60fps spectrum on PS/XB :/

I made this exact point in another thread. Sony is in a good spot right now, they could wiat until 2019 and throw in a Threadripper CPU, new AMD Vega RX GPU and pretty much own next gen as well. Hell even if they launched next year with a Ryzen CPU it would be a better console than the Xbox1x. At any rate, Sony gave the Playstation some legs with the Pro version and is set to easily go into 2019 with the PS4 IMO. I would put my money on a 2019 Release for a new Playstation at a $399 price point.

I think they are going to use a semi-custom Zen 1700, with some slight advancements made since its launch.  Possibly a Zen+ if it's out in time and cheap enough.  Even if it's the former, that is a pretty damn big leap over the PS4 and XBO's Jaguar, even with Scorpio's overclocking of it.  I'm guessing Vega 10, which is 12.5 Tflops, for the GPU.  Though, they may go with a Vega 20, which is 15 Tflops, if, again, it is out in time and cheap enough.  For RAM, I'm guessing 16GB of GDDR6 or HBM2/3.  Either way, it's going to be more than twice the power of the Scorpio and, most likely, be out just 2 years after it launches.  That, plus the fact that Scorpio, or even XBO, has no real exclusives, makes its purchase just seem so pointless to me.

Next gen, 4K30/60FPS will definitely be the standard.  Though, I coulds still see some devs using CB4K if they want to push the visuals even more.