Azzanation said:
Captain_Yuri said:
I don't get what you are trying to say at all... You do realize that Ryzen CPUs doesn't automatically mean more powerful than i5s right? When the next gen consoles come around, what will happen is that the cpus will be much more powerful than current gen consoles but much weaker than i5 cpus... And having the word "i5" doesn't make it universal in performance standards. An i5 7600k is much more powerful than an i5 2500k for example.
What ryzen cpus will do is that it will make it mostly impossible for the jags to keep up but i5s and etc will keep up just fine because the consoles will get the much weaker CPUs that are in APUs... So Scorpio not being to play next gen games won't have any effect on PCs with i5s or higher cause the next gen console CPUs will be weaker than i5s but much stronger than the jags...
And having a similar API doesn't mean anything if the base line hardware has a significant increase because the developers will be coding for the Specific hardware to take advantage of it. Just because jags and Ryzen are both x86 does not mean they are the same or even close to being the same and APIs won't help. The only way the Scorpio will be able to play Xbox 2 games is if it's not actually called Xbox 2 but instead be called Xbox Scorpio Refresh or something...
And again, you aren't using any actual evidence to prove that it wouldn't be a problem for scorpio. You are just using pc as an excuse but ignoring how console optimization works. I think you are confused some where...
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Im far from confused. What your missing out on is next gen games still have to be optimized for low end PCs. Regardless of the prefermormance of next gen consoles, Devs will be still aiming for the middle ground. If your talking 1st party console exclusives than maybe not since they will use next gen hardware at its fullest.
I am basing this off if next gen arrives in the next couple of years.
If your saying Ryzen isnt going to be as powerful as the low end PC CPUs than you have anwsered the question yourself. I doubt next gen is going to be as big of a jump in preformance compared to 7th gen to 8th gen.
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But low end PCs, as far as CPUs go will have similar performance to the cpu of xbox 2/ps5... So that isn't going to matter.
I don't think you realize how weak the jag cpus are... A jump to Ryzen would still be powerful enough to make the jags not be able to keep up even if the Ryzen cpus aren't anywhere near as powerful as i5s because that's exactly how weak jag cpus are... I think you are way overestimating how powerful the jags are...
