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Pemalite said:
Captain_Yuri said:

But resolution/textures have nothing to do with cpu power... If the ps5/xb2 uses ryzen based apus, then ipc wise, it will get around 40-50% uplift in performance per core... Assuming devs will make their games around the increase, the scorpio won't have enough horse power in the cpu department to run many of those games...

I would expect more. Jaguar is an evolutionary update to Bobcat found in Brazos.
It's only a dual issue CPU architecture. AMD's FX makes a mockery of Jaguar... And Ryzen makes a mockery of FX.

Plus Jaguar can't scale in clocks very well due to various architectural choices and using transistors optimised for power consumption rather than clockrate.

I would expect the next generation consoles to use Ryzens successor anyway, Zen+. And by hacking away at that massive L2 and L3 cache, it should be small and cheap enough for next gen as Ryzens CPU cores are actually pretty small. Not Jaguar/Puma/Puma+ small, but on a newer process it should be good enough.

Well, going by single thread ratings from Passmark and little clock for clock math, I think around 50% better IPC is fair assessment. But even if it's only that much, I really doubt next gen consoles will have such anemic clocks, so with 10nm parts inside as minimum, it's fair to say that we'll be looking at least at some 3x in CPU performance.

But overall, I do think that Scorpio will be able to pull off most nextgen games.