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Teriol said:
thismeintiel said:

You're first problem is believing VGChartz over the official trackers, like NPD and Media Create.  Everything we have says the PS4 is up.  If VGC wants to go against that trend and say its down, they can, but at the cost of their own credibility.

Though, after looking at their numbers, they have the PS4 up by 15K YOY, so what are you even going on about?

Well, i can't discuse nothing with you if you don't believe in vgcharzt numbers :/

What i'm trying to show to the other guy is exactly what i bold in your reply. this year is the peak of sales for ps4.

If this year is the peak year of the PS4, then you think it will beat last year's 20M?  So, you think the PS4 will be 81M-82M in March of 2018?  Doesn't that mean the PS4 has a much better chance at hitting 102M+.  And I don't think anyone is really arguing against this year being the PS4's best, or at least match last year's sales.  The point is the PS4 isn't going to drop off a cliff just because its past its peak year.  It'll see a slow and steady decline til it is taken off the market.

Even if you are talking calender years and not fiscal years, it being up YOY for the rest of the year means shipments will be up, also.  So even if the beginning of next year is down YOY, it should equal out to being relatively flat for the fiscal year.  So, basically it should be close to 80M by March 2018.  Sales are not going to plummet in 2018 so much so that the PS4 won't be damn close to 100M by March of 2019.  I mean, we're probably going to see a $149 PS4 in 2018.  Maybe $249 for Pro.