Myth: Nintendo needs to have big surprises at E3 or they're doomed

[Miyamotoo]

DélioPT said:

Miyamotoo said:

Sony and Nintendo have different approaches, Sony tend to announce game few years in advance while Nintendo is looking to have less time between announcement and release.

Yes, Switch is huge succes and Nintendo cant keep up with demand, and more big and system seller games or on way that will continue momentum and increase demand for Switch on market. Switch is selling better than GC in same time, and GC never had sucha demand that Nintendo couldnt keep up with it, and Nintendo very clever scheduled their big and stronger games, so that we have one stronger or bigger Nintendo game every month.

If talk about 3rd party, after Wii U most of 3rd parties take "wait and see" approach with Switch, they waiting bigger instal base and to see how much exactly success Switch is. I expecting to see much more 3rd party games around E3 next year.

You speak as if Nintendo always wanted to show things that were ready to come out soon.
When they had stuff to show in advance, they showed it (E3 2014) and when they didn't have (E3 2015), they didn't show it.

But this was not my point.
My point was that doing things like Sony's - and even MS - way is doable and when i try to understand how NIntendo went and did something different, i realise that they didn't do it because they couldn't.
I'm not against doing things differently, i'm surely not against doing things in a short time frame, but i'm not blind: Nintendo did not have enough to show in 2 presentations (the focus on 2017 games at this E3 shows that). So what do they do? 1 presentation before launch and that's it.

I may be wrong, but i honestly don't see anything that clearly shows how doing what Sony did could have been a serious option for Nintendo. That's all.

 

From what i remember reading, GC actually had a good start: good price, good 1st party support... until that support kind dried up.
It's too soon to determine if Switch won't go the same way even if Switch has way more demand than GC. If the support isn't there next year (we don't know that yet), sales will fall.

 

Big userbase won't necessarily mean more 3rd party support.
Just look at how 3rd parties pretty much avoided bringing their best games to Wii. Why? Because, despite the size of the userbase, the audience for their games simply wasn't there.
Naturally, the bigger the userbase is, the more people can buy your games.

This has been Nintendo's problem since GC: grow userbase and 3rd parties will come.
It just doesn't work that way.
Nintendo needs to show that 3rd parties can sell their games, but to do that, they need to bring those customers first (1st party shooters, racers, etc.; exclusive titles in popular genres, for example.).

Not always, but they changed their approach last few years, they several times said they don't intend to announced games that can't be out few years, and we already saw they anncuing and relasing games in less than a year. Like I wrote different approaches, Nintendo could easily choose to show lotsa 2018. games on E3 but instead they said they will focus on 2017. games.

 

Best GC year in sales was 2. year of GC on market (FY year that ended Mar 31, 2003.), and GC sold 5.76m in that best year. Switch will most likely just in 1st year on market sell around 10m. Like I wrote, Switch is selling better than GC in same time, and GC never had sucha demand that Nintendo couldnt keep up with it, and Nintendo very clever scheduled their big and stronger games, so that we have one stronger or bigger Nintendo game every month. Also what's different with Switch compared to GC is that Switch is also handheld in same time, so it's basically aiming at handheld market in same time. Offcourse there will be good support next year too, Fire Emblem, Retros game, Next Level Games game, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Smash Bros, Pikmin 4, some other Wii U remasters, some new games...all are possible for next year.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_GameCube

 

 

Actually it means, bigger user base means more 3rd party games compared to small user base if we talk about same platform. Wii actually had probably best 3rd party support for Nintendo console from SNES.

On Switch 3rd parties could actually have much better sales compared to past Nintendo consoles because now they can played them in full handheld mode also and thats for some people game changer.