| 97alexk said: Yes, jews died in the second world war, ofc. Nazis killed some jews, but the whole mass killing through the events that how they played out never happened like everyone say they did because there is not enough evidence. After second world war and the sovjets came in, it was actually seen by some pictures i beleive that they themself were buildiing gas chambers too dirty play germany and get the propaganda for the war in sovjet union, too fool them. Then afterwards it became a huge that that everyone said that the germans did. Nazi germany had labor camps yes, and there were jews in them. But most of these labor camps have been confirmed to have, playgrounds, cafeteria and even other things. The pictures and videos you see of the jews being skinny is because of the desease Typhus, which was very common in those camps and in those conditions in general, you can look it up. There is more evidence now that can be showed against the holoaust then for it. Way more, and its still hard for me to believe. But im no neo-nazi or anything, i just seek the truth. And my logical conclusion would be to judge everything, regardless! |
I agree that one should remain at least a little sceptical. Everyone knows the well known quotes that "truth is the first casualty of war", "history is written by the victors" etc., yet we somehow still tend to take the official version as facts.
Personally, I only got sceptical a few years ago, when I learnt that "only" about 1.2 million people had died in Auschwitz. As part of my school education in Germany in the 1990s, I still learnt that about 4.2 million people had died in Auschwitz alone. Back at the time, I found that number so shocking that it burnt deeply into my brain; and for many years, I considered that number to be something like an undeniable fact, probably also due to the fact that the number we learned wasn't even rounded, but accurate up to the last digit (which suggested that the number was very well examined).
Then, about 10 years back, I somewhere read that 1.2 million people died in Auschwitz. Given that I was absolutely sure about that number actually being about 4.2 million, I got quite confused and believed that 1.2 million number to be a mistake - but somehow, wherever I looked it up, in Wikipedia etc., the official number was now said to be "only" about 1.2 million. I almost couldn't believe it: How could a number that I learnt during my school education just a few years ago, and that burnt deeply into my brain be so far off (about 3 million or 250%) the truth? When I read more about it, I learned that the 4.2 million number was highly exaggerated and spread by the soviets, and was probably just propaganda meant to make the defeated Nazis look even more evil than they were (considering the insanely high number of casualties the soviets suffered due to the Nazis, I guess that's even somewhat understandable). Apparently, the 4.2 million number was long considered to be official number, and it took until the late 1980s/early 1990s that the fact that the actual number was much lower slowly became common knowledge (afaik, this was mainly due to a single sceptical and brave historian who prove that the true number must be much lower).
Back then I realized: If even the official number of Auschwitz deaths can be a whole 3 million or 250% off the truth without people realizing for over 40 years, then there is more than enough reason to at least be sceptical about other parts of the WW2 narrative as well, as they might just as well be propaganda by the victors. And I also suddenly understood why some so-called "holocaust deniars" would be sceptical about the official number of "6 million jews" that died during the holocaust: If the official number of people who died in Auschwitz basically dropped by a whole 3 million people from one day to the other - wouldn't the official number of jews who died during the holocaust then have to be (at least slightly) reduced as well then due to that insight? There might be a completely logical explanation for why that number remains correct, but it's easy to see why some people who are aware of that sudden disappearance of 3 million Auschwitz deaths have trouble believing that this did not change the number of jews who died during the holocaust at all. Especially since that sudden disappearance of 3 million Auschwitz deaths was never a big issue in the german media (which is quite astonishing, given the fact that Auschwitz is such a major part of the german identity).
