Rpruett said:
Angelus said:
Yes he has, and he's absolutely amazing. One of the best to ever play the game without question. He's just never gonna be the GOAT, that's all.
Oh and the amount of teams he took to the finals that didn't deserve to be there, is exactly one. The first time he ever went to the finals, with that sorry ass Cavs team full of nobodies....that team had no business in the finals, and what he did to take them there was phenomenal. Every team since then though? Stacked with talent, and best in the east without question. Would have been shocking if he didn't get to the finals.
And he WILL go to several more finals before his career is over. At least 3 I'd say. And if this Golden State team stays together, guess what....he'll lose all of those too. It's completely within the realm of reason to suggest he might end his career with a 3-8 record in the NBA Finals. And let me tell you, it doesn't matter how great you are, if that's your record on the sports biggest stage....you can never ever be the GOAT. That's a fact.
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And Jordan's teams weren't stacked with talent? I mean -- that's the joke honestly.
Championships are a team victory. Jordan didn't earn those alone, and while one great player can carry teams to a championship, you need a team to win them. LeBron and his teams have only been favored to win (2 of his 8 Finals in his career), that punctures your theory right at face value. The Bulls were always considered favorites to win outside (of their very first championship). TLDR; The Bulls were the dominant team always -- Lebron teams were not always the best teams but he consistently got them there.
http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19465658/golden-state-warriors-open-strong-favorite-las-vegas
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was bulls favourite against the 98 jazz? anyways jordan never had a bad finals series like lebron did in 2007 and 2011. thats why i considered jordan the superior player and therefore lebron isnt the goat. i dont know whos the goat but jordans the best ive seen.
