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AlfredoTurkey said:
Paatar said:
2019 is too soon imo. PS3 and 360 lasted a long time. Give the PS4 and XB1 till 2020

PS3 and 360 lated too long. 2019 would be five years... that's long enough.

It's actually 6 years with a late 2019 launch, which is why I think it's happening.  3 years til Pro came out. 3 more years til PS5 comes out.  I think we're going to see a 1700 Zen CPU and a Vega 10 GPU, most likely in APU form.  There's a chance we get a Zen+ in there and/or a Vega 20, but it's going to come down to cost.  If Sony can put them in, with (most likely) 16GB of HBM2/3 RAM, for only ~$425, then they will and launch it for $399.