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Tulipanzo on 05 June 2017
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Imaginedvl said:
Ali_16x said:

Lol do you actually believe Microsoft had a better E3 during 2015 and 2016? It aint even debateable. 2014 however, it came down to what you enjoyed more, both had a bunch of CGI trailers.

"lol". I do.

I mean I'm sorry but you are proving my point. I can tell you that Microsoft fans have a very different oppinion than Sony enthusiasts and I have hard time to comprehend how some people really believe they are "right" instead of understanding that at the end it is all relative and subjective. 

So yes, you can argue as much as you want :) Like the majority of the Sony enthusiasts or anti Microsoft, who are "not interrested" you defintely think Sony's E3 are close to heaven... While Microsoft enthusiasts have usually a very different oppinion. I personally found the majority of Sony's E3 extremly boring, and the reasons are simples, I do not care about their games and consoles... Guess what, same goes the other way :)

I can tell you that other than maybe 2015 where it has nothing to do with content at the end, the majority of Xbox fans will tell you Microsoft enthusiasts will tell you Microsoft E3s were the best. 

I mean this is dead end argument and you are just proving out our point here anyway. At the end all conference will be the best for the ones who are expecting something out of it for themselves and getting it... Sony fans do not care at all about Microsoft and vice-et-versa... Both side will find their conference (unless it is really really really bad which is never the case) to be the best and this is simple logic.

At the moment the Play Station Four vs Xbox One usebase is like what? 65%-35%, well I can garantee you the results wil be about the same in "who won the E3" polls... Again, simple logic and nothing objective at the end :)

I get your point, who "wins" E3 is very much subjective and will undoubtely be coloured by your preference.However the fact that it can't be discussed objectively doesn't mean that it can't be discussed.

It also doesn't mean that the entire community is divided into camps that will exclusively award the "best show" to their own brand each and every time.

See, the divide may very well be 65-35, but Sony didn't achieve that number by parashooting PS4s into people's houses. Throughout this generation they seem to have been better at selling their hardware and software than Microsoft.
I know people that own multiple consoles, or were even pretty big fan of Microsoft, and actively wished they "won" this gen, but by and large they seem not to care about the direction the company is going with. 

I myself bought an XBox One as a direct consequence of their E3 2015 showing, and let me tell you: their 2016 conference was utter rubbish.
It was rubbish on its own terms, no comparison to other shows required; they spent way to much time on demo presentations of Scalebound and FFXV, Sea of Thieves' made its own game look shallow and obnoxious. The announcement of the S made my own purchase utterly worthless (I would be lucky to sell it for 150) and was immediately undercut by the Scorpio, which feels like the most tired idea they could come up with to liven things up.

Now, you may very well disagree with me there, and that's fine, to each its own. I'm sure you could argue that, as an XBox fan, it connected to you more.
However saying that Sony's next conference will be liked by more people because they sold more units, and that consequently there's no use discussing E3, seems like a preemptive way of saying that people won't like it.
Yet, you claim, XBox enthusiasts will like it, which isn't so great. You're implicitly admitting that, unless you're already on board with Microsoft and the direction the brand is taking, you won't like it. That this has been going on for a few years should make you pause.

 It will ony convince people that require no further convincing. That might be bad.