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Hiku said:
eva01beserk said:

I cant say I know of such group, but if they just dont promote such pasages, but dont condem them when they are brought up(if thats what they do) then its the same thing. Wich again is the point of cristinitys reform. They dont promote such barbarity, but acknoledge is in the book and say its not good anymore and all that. wich is a wold of diference.

And to the second point of the 24% who belive is 100% word of god. The reform tells them that before jesus it was a diferent time and it as allowed but that all change and now anyone who acts that way will suffer under gods hand.  So they still belive is 100% word of god, but they know that is no longer permited, well at least the majority of them do. Wich is why islam is so dangerous right now, they got no such notion of the passage of time. They still think what applys then, still does now.

Well, one that I was thinking of is my friends brother. I don't know if he condemns it, because maybe you can't condemn one part without condemning it all. He just avoids it. And I think that's often the case for the bible as well. I at least can't seem to find any info on these passages generally being condemned by Christian churches. Can you give me a link to that?
I just assumed they gloss over it, by not talking about it. Like some other things. Such as how you're apparently not supposed to eat shrimp. Or how the size of the firmament in the Bible was wrong. I think instead, if the subbject comes up, they commonly debate the interpritation of these passaages.

As for the second point, yeah I think Christian societies have generally moved further away from the teachings of the bible and they're less heavily integrated in our society than in Islam based cultures.

I agree with you there that its normal than when one part is questioned then they start questioning other things untill questioning the entire thing.

But I dont think that I can provide a link as to some proove as I long separated from any religious gathering, read any passage, or even heard any online sermon or rebutal. Dont think I can even stomac a video just to prove a point. But something that should be quite comon, wich was when I was a regular atendant at church, was what you mentioned. They read some story and skiped the awfull parts, like god ordering to kill and burne villages wit women and children, even the catle sufering. but when asked why they skiped certain parts, or bringing a certain brutal part to their atention, they never deny such passages, they faced it head on and do some kind of mental gymnastics to say it was ok back then, but now its not and they dont aprove. I think thats something that should be easy to find online of some pastors defending the horrble verses in the bible.

To your second point. That might be the key here. We stood up to crazzy cristians rules, like gay, divorce, adultry, apostesy and all that nonsense that was punishable before. Back then people still thought it was crazzy but obey because of the consecuenses of speaking back. That might be the issue now with islamic territories. They might be good people but their law will send them to prison or even kill them if they try to change something. They might be a majority of civilized people but they are to afraid to try to do anything.



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