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FentonCrackshell said:
sethnintendo said:

I'd even argue legal immigrants suppress wages.  I work at a manufucturing plant that is filled with mainly Asians, Hispanics, Iraqis, and Blacks.  Apparently the Iraqis are the new Asians because my work loves hiring them.  They've been able to keep their starting wage at about 9.50-10.50 for the past 10+ years.  Somebody quits or they lay off a bunch of people?  No worries there are plenty of new arrivals to take their place. 

You know why most Americans might not want to do the job?  Because the pay is shit.  It isn't because they can't do the work or the work is too hard.  The pay is shit.

And the same folks who won't work those jobs because the pay is crap will be the same folks fighting against raising minimum wage. 

Minimum wage is another issue. Paying someone $15 per hour for unskilled labor is not the answer. Fast food jobs are not careers, they are for high school kids learning to work. The difference here is employers are taking advantage of the fact that to outsiders, $9 per hour is a fortune and they don’t have to pay benefits to illegal or work visa employees. They are saving on both fronts. An American employee who is willing to work full time at $9 per hour is forced to have insurance and now the employer is forced to provide it and pay a portion of it thanks to the idiotic Democrats. Maybe employers and employees would have it better if we stop trying to mandate benefits coverage. Benefits used to be a perk offered by employers to entice talent, now it is a burden they try and avoid at all costs.