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areason said:
Johnw1104 said:

It includes a 4k player, which is one of the things Playstation dropped to keep the price down near $400. It's a little like the original PS3, though not nearly as expensive to manufacture.

It's going to be at least $500, and that's not an unfair price for what you're getting... it just flirts with that price point that most gamers have refused to cross for decades now.

It being fair doesn't mean that the price isn't big. I don't see scorpio being just an upgrade with that price. 

Both the Pro and the Scoprio have flirted with the idea of being a new gen as opposed to a minor upgrade. The main issue is the CPU, as both the PS4 and even the Scorpio's stronger CPU are relatively minor upgrades over their original models, whereas the GPU is indeed a substantial upgrade in both instances. We're already seeing the CPU bottleneck issue keeping games from 60fps, so they're really just walking the line between a minor and complete upgrade.

So long as there are no games exclusive to the Pro/Scorpio, then they'll continue to be considered this gen.  As for the Scorpio, it IS "just an upgrade", but it's a more substantial one than the PS4 offered. If you're one of those people who would spring for the upgrade to get access to superior visuals (and in the Scorpio's case a 4k DVD player), then the price is probably just fine.

Whether or not it would be outside of the range of your average gamer is difficult to say... They're going to need to show some absolutely must-have games, but perhaps the fact that so many people went with the PS4 over the Xbox1 a few years ago will mean there's people who never got the original and would be interested in the Scorpio.

Regardless, I'd expect it to be at least $500 (and that's rather pushing it). If you want superior visuals, a native 4k experience, and a 4k player, that price range is reasonable... I just don't know that the demand is there.