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Hiku said:
Nautilus said:

I think we have reached a point in where we are just disagreeing about points of views, but not on something objective.

With the first two points, I have nothing to disagree with.I can actually relate to you in one point or another.As for the last point, what I said, and every argument should be about really, is the general population of said professions.There are the shitty hunters that hunt illegaly and kill endangered animals, ones that kill just for the kill and leave the body there.Those should be arrested and deserves no respect.The same goes for the other end in the prostitute profession.There are the ones that, while I still dont think nicely of them, are the high end prostitutes, which lives really well, the costumers are all "gentlemans" and will never be in any real danger as the ones I gave a example of.But those are the exceptions, or rather the minorities.I still have to see or read that many of the prostitutes are rich or have real good lifes, or that the world is infested with illegal hunters that have decimated countless species.There will always be exception for any situation, and these are the outliners, not the common.

As for taking pleasure in what they do, why shouldnt they?I mean, you dont need to like that, but its what makes them so good at what they do. And that dosent mean they willbe, or are, bad people. Imagine if soldiers(as in soldiers that go to wars or work in the army) didnt like what they did. US would have a shitty army then. Being good at killing people, for as sad as this is, is what makes them good soldiers, and that what makes them good protectors, which is one necessary evil for any society. And when you are good at something, it usually means you enjoy it.And yet, you dont see every single soldier that comes back from war going on a killing spree, do you?(outside of exceptions, of course) They are usually good people, with families.Im sure there are more professions out there that could be similar to this situation we are discussing about, but I think the soldier one is good enough.

As for that last line, apples and oranges.Its a matter of seeing things differently I guess.

Well there was one thing I edited into my post before you replied think it can sum up my thoughts on last point of our discussion.

While there are circumstances where I can think poorly of a person in either proffession, I can also find circumstances for a prostitute or an adult film star where if they take pleasure in what they're doing, I don't neccesarily think they are bad people for it. And certainly wouldn't think they deserve to die.
But I can't find a scenario where I don't think a hunter who enjoys doing what this man did was a bad person, or that he may have had it coming if he got killed in the process.

That's the major difference for me.
If you enjoy killing animals for whatever reason, that's it as far as I'm concerened. Whether it makes you good at what you do or not, that says something about you as a person.

As for comparing with things such as prostitutes and military soldiers, it's important that they are proper analogies. The ramafications of a failed military is quite different to if a safari hunter was bad at their job.
I do however think that you can be adequately good at some jobs without taking pride in it. And certainly without taking pleasure from it. I've had such jobs.
Safari hunter though? I don't know. But I wouldn't mind if the safari agency was a bad one because of it. Not one bit.
Let all those rich westerners who came down to kill animals get squished by elephants for all I care.

Well lets agree to disagree then.i just find it wrong to label someone a villain without knowing all the circunstances, thats all.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1