Safari hunter Killed During Hunt

[Nautilus]

Hiku said:

Nautilus said:

I dont have remorse for him dying while on the job.I mean, thats comes with his territory. He knew full well the risks of what he was doing and just happened to draw the short stick. In a way, its the same for the police. Its always a tragedy when one dies, but it is a risk that is understood given his choice of career, but its a true tragedy when someone dies on something that he/she shouldnt have died of, like the recent terrorist atack on Manchester Arena. My stance is the same with this hunter. Im not saying that people should have been rooting for the hunter to survive(Its like climbing the Everest.You "mourn" when someone dies attempting it, but its his fault to try something so risky in the first place), but what Im saying is have respect for the man, as he was still a human being, and even given the choice of his career, he might still have been a decent person.

You can say that you dont agree with what he does and be glad that the elephant survived or managed to win the fight, but going so far as to say that the hunter is a disease or that, quoting one user here, "i hope a monkey pissed in his dead corpse after it." is being as wrong as the hunter you so much hate. Jumping to conclusions of branding a whole category as being bad or evil without understanding every facet of it is as dangerous as you think that category is. Much of the worlds disgrace and misfortunes are born from ignorance.

As for your second question, yes I do think so.Maybe its because I have constant contact with hookers that I find such profession dammning.Dying is a natural process, a part of life, so I find that more understandable when someone hunts or dies in that process.Fight, survival, scaveging for goods and foods, all of that is part of the human nature, assuming you are not doing anything illegal and using every useful part of the animal body, and killing as swiftly as possible, minimizing the pain and everything.And they are animals that were born in the wildlife.If you are not hunting something that is protected or is part of someone life, like a pet, that is their reality, of to be killed or to kill.You are not being exactly "cruel" to them in that regard.Its hard to explain this concept through writing.

As for prostitution, its not a natural thing, in my point of view at least, to sell your body for money.I mean, you can have sex with anyone you want as far as Im concerned, but putting a price on your body to see it being used without you REALLY concenting to it, just so that you get some money out of it, is..... denegrating.Constantly doing that, you end up becoming more of a thing than a person in most people eyes, and depending on your own personality, even in your own eyes.Every now and then, I pass on my way from home or going to the movies for example, on a specific street where there are hooker trying to "sell themselves" on the street, both woman and transgenders, and its just sad, for a lack of a better word. When you pass by, the street recks of piss, you see condoms throw in the streets(implying that sometimes they simply do the sex right there, in the corner of some street that is nearby).Once, going with my father to his work, I saw a hooker in the middle of the street that was bleeding from the waist down,crying and screaming of pain, probably due to some costumer that was extremely rough with him(it was a transgender).And that is the condition of most hookers.And to live in those conditions, with constant fear of being raped by a costumer or beaten nearly to death, in a workplace as dirty as that, is no way to live.There are worst things than death, and to live in those conditions, its no wonder that suicide is a thing.Oh, and its all legal mind you.Its not because a profession is legal, you are going to be treated kindly or have a nice, cozy workplace.

Im not saying I approve any of both activities, but betwenn two horrible choices, for a being that is not as sentient as us and kill or be killed is a part of his dialy life, having a clean death is the better choice in my opinion.

Well when I mentioned no remores, I wasn't quite viewing like that of a cop getting killed on the job. Yes, they both know the risks of their line of work. But if a cop died while trying to rescue someone, I would still feel remorse for them. It's what the hunter was doing that made me not feel remorse for him, the way he went out.

As for going as far as the hunter a disease or whatever people say, and not being better than the hunter in that regard, don't get me wrong. I'm not pretending that what I said is any better than the hunter morally. I'm fine with being called as bad as him in that regard. I don't think it's more righteous. Just that it's an eye for an eye. I think what he chose to do and took pleasure from was despicable. Not feeling bad for his death because of that is equally bad. But that's how I feel about this.

As for the profession of hunter vs prostitute, it's not as much the "making a living" part of that hunters job I have an issue with, as it is the part where he takkes enjoyment out of it. If he only did it to get by, and wished he was doing something else, and he didn't pose on top of animal corpses after sniping them down with a rifle, it would be a slightly different story. I don't think being hit in the head with a 0.30 caliber bullet from 2 km away is part of the natural cycle of life for wild animals. Especially when it's done for sport.
Humans pay for a lot of services from other humans. Massages, etc. Where does one draw the line? There are ways to make prostitution significantly safer and cleaner than in the scanrios you described. But what also comes to mind for me is adult video stars.Not that it applies to everyone, but some of the performers are simply doing exactly what they want to be doing, but they get paid for it.

There are certainly prostitites who, depending on the situation, I can see as bad as well. But in the general sense, if they enjoy what they do, I don't see them as bad as those who enjoy murdering animals because of that fact alone.

I think we have reached a point in where we are just disagreeing about points of views, but not on something objective.

With the first two points, I have nothing to disagree with.I can actually relate to you in one point or another.As for the last point, what I said, and every argument should be about really, is the general population of said professions.There are the shitty hunters that hunt illegaly and kill endangered animals, ones that kill just for the kill and leave the body there.Those should be arrested and deserves no respect.The same goes for the other end in the prostitute profession.There are the ones that, while I still dont think nicely of them, are the high end prostitutes, which lives really well, the costumers are all "gentlemans" and will never be in any real danger as the ones I gave a example of.But those are the exceptions, or rather the minorities.I still have to see or read that many of the prostitutes are rich or have real good lifes, or that the world is infested with illegal hunters that have decimated countless species.There will always be exception for any situation, and these are the outliners, not the common.

As for taking pleasure in what they do, why shouldnt they?I mean, you dont need to like that, but its what makes them so good at what they do. And that dosent mean they willbe, or are, bad people. Imagine if soldiers(as in soldiers that go to wars or work in the army) didnt like what they did. US would have a shitty army then. Being good at killing people, for as sad as this is, is what makes them good soldiers, and that what makes them good protectors, which is one necessary evil for any society. And when you are good at something, it usually means you enjoy it.And yet, you dont see every single soldier that comes back from war going on a killing spree, do you?(outside of exceptions, of course) They are usually good people, with families.Im sure there are more professions out there that could be similar to this situation we are discussing about, but I think the soldier one is good enough.

As for that last line, apples and oranges.Its a matter of seeing things differently I guess.