Safari hunter Killed During Hunt

[Nautilus]

Turkish said:

Nautilus said:

My god, it feels like Im talking to a brick wall.

There is no equating killing elephants with eating tomatoes here, you simpleton.The whole discussion was about red meat being healthy or not, and my point was about eating anything in excess could be potentially harmful.I dont know where you took that idea from, or if it is that you cant argue back with facts and arguments so you are creating things out of thin air, but thats reading interpretation problemsthat you have at the very least here.

And if you mean the part where I said  people were quick to call the hunter a monster and a criminal and so on, but then I went on to point out that by eating meat, fish or other types of vegetables and foods, you are incentivizing other hunters to keep on hunting( and thus keep on doing what you consider heinous but you dont want to stop eating that so delicious meat), and thus keep those same monsters doing what they do, I meant hunters in general, not this one that was hunting elephants, that I was corrected on being in danger of extintion.My point was to all hunters, that do this legally, not the illegal part of that profession.

Andf thanks for this conversation, it just goes on the prove that ignorance can be a worse weapon than any kind of bomb or biological weapon, because apparently there are no cure for some.

Do you have memory problems? Your words:

"I always find it funny when people acusse these guys of being "mass murderers""

"Do you eat vegetable and plants?Then you re also murderer.They are also living beings, and just because they dont scream and cry dosent make them less living.There are more and more researches indicating that plants have councioness, so they are as much alive as any other animal"

That is equating the killings of these animals with eating vegetables because they too are alive. One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on the internet. Not only do you not know what you're talking about, it also seems you don't remember the things you say either.

LMAO @ simpleton, resorting to personal insults because I exposed how flawed your arguments have been. It seems you have a difficult time trying to interact with people with opposing views, first ridiculing without fact checking my claim that meat being bad for your health as "nonsense, losing my credibility", and then damage controlling after I said which organization that claim belongs to with "yeah but anything excessive is bad", ignoring that too much is actually only 70g a day.

And with this comment, I once again repeat:

My god, it feels like Im talking to a brick wall.

I just answered your question and yet you go on to say a memory problem?Please.It seems that you are the one who has reading problems.Here it is my quote from the last post:

°And if you mean the part where I said  people were quick to call the hunter a monster and a criminal and so on, but then I went on to point out that by eating meat, fish or other types of vegetables and foods, you are incentivizing other hunters to keep on hunting( and thus keep on doing what you consider heinous but you dont want to stop eating that so delicious meat), and thus keep those same monsters doing what they do, I meant hunters in general, not this one that was hunting elephants, that I was corrected on being in danger of extintion.My point was to all hunters, that do this legally, not the illegal part of that profession."

And as it seems that you are too lazy to look up proof about what I said about plant life, here it is to ease things up for ya:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants

Before you say anything, vegetable comes from plants, and to produce vegetables, you need to open space, which means taking down fields filled with plant life(actually agriculture brings about the destruction of many wooded areas and similar terrains, one of such victims is the Amazonia rain forest,and is a very real threat to the planet, which only happens because we humans consume alot of vegetables and thus the market react to that.But thats a discussion for another day).With that out of the way...

So what you are saying is, just because plants cant scream, cry, most of the time cant fight back, they are inferior to other types of life and its ok to destroy?So you are ok with people who take down trees and dont use the wood, but are not ok with killing animals?Thats what you are saying?Because that would make you a monster, since you are ok with people destrying the ecosystem.See where I am getting?

I called you a simpleton, not insulted you.And keeps that fake laugh to yourself, you are making yourself look like a fool in the process. About the red meat part, of course anything in excess can be harmful.To be quite honest, alot of things nowadays can cause cancer, even vegetables.If you dont believe me, just read this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-100825/Eating-vegetables-seriously-damage-health.html

And at the same time, red meat is extremely beneficial for us to consume(in moderation, obviously):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3300942/Why-red-meat-good-health-days-dire-cancer-warnings-comfort-expert-analysis.html

It is rich in nutrients, energy, and the brain gets its nutrients from there.

You know what else can cause cancer?Salmon, canned tomato, hydrogenated oils(which is basicalle vegetable oil, you know the oil that we use basically in everything), Diet foods in general, and so on.See for yourself.Oh and mind you, this list only contain some of the foods that can cause cancer.Pretty sure there are more out there.

http://naturalon.com/10-of-the-most-cancer-causing-foods/13/

So yeah, anything excessive is bad.And I mean, anything.Even water, drinking it at absurd high levels, can kill you(though its unrealistic to happen).That 70 g guideline is just that, guideline.It will vary to person to person, due to the metabolism of him/her, and due to the fact that you dont eat meat every single day.And I mean, if eating more than that was that dangerous, we would probably be dead by now, since we lived off of meat for many centuries.So yeah, in the moment that you said " Oh no, red meat is a big villain, will get you cancer for sure, everyone should stop eating it and be more healthy" is the moment you lost all credibility due to all the evidence I posted above, since you cant do some basic search, and the fact that you just bash at me instead of bringing actual tangible proof to the discussion.

The key word here is:moderation.Nothing is really bad for your health, unless ingested in excess.