Safari hunter Killed During Hunt

[Nautilus]

Hiku said:

Nautilus said:

As to the first point:Its not that simple. I may be talking shit now, since I never hunted nor do I know any hunters, but enjoying a hunt and having total disregard for life is two very different things.And I mean, assuming the hunt is legal and it is moderated(as in hunters dont hunt enough to endanger a species in any way), how much different is that picture if instead of humans, it were lions or any other animals?We are, in the end, also animals.The big problem here is perception.You and I have different ideas of what wrong and right is.And taking off the obviously wrong things, what I can consider wrong you can consider normal, and vice versa.Personally I see prostitution as being worse than hunting for example(legal and hunting only animals in abudance, of course).It goes from person to person.

As for the second point, yeah didnt know that elephants were so low on population.So I dont quite agree with that hunt.But my vision for hunters in general stays the same.

Yeah, people have different opinions, and that's fine. I understand that.
That also means I understand the people who have no remorse for a man who enjoyed killing animals for sport, getting killed in the process. Which I happen to agreee with as well. If it were lions or any other animnals, I'd feel the same if it was done for sport. And that's apparently what he did for a living. He set up safari hunts for rich westerners to come down and kill these animals for fun.
Because they take pleasure in sniping animals to death, they are terrible people in my book.

But to be clear about your stance, do you think a prostitute operating legally in Amsterdam is a worse person who hunts for sport legally?
Either way, they don't kill anyone. And the topic at hand is that some people think this animal murderer getting killed by one served him right. Not refering to the friends and family he left behind of course.

I dont have remorse for him dying while on the job.I mean, thats comes with his territory. He knew full well the risks of what he was doing and just happened to draw the short stick. In a way, its the same for the police. Its always a tragedy when one dies, but it is a risk that is understood given his choice of career, but its a true tragedy when someone dies on something that he/she shouldnt have died of, like the recent terrorist atack on Manchester Arena. My stance is the same with this hunter. Im not saying that people should have been rooting for the hunter to survive(Its like climbing the Everest.You "mourn" when someone dies attempting it, but its his fault to try something so risky in the first place), but what Im saying is have respect for the man, as he was still a human being, and even given the choice of his career, he might still have been a decent person.

You can say that you dont agree with what he does and be glad that the elephant survived or managed to win the fight, but going so far as to say that the hunter is a disease or that, quoting one user here, "i hope a monkey pissed in his dead corpse after it." is being as wrong as the hunter you so much hate. Jumping to conclusions of branding a whole category as being bad or evil without understanding every facet of it is as dangerous as you think that category is. Much of the worlds disgrace and misfortunes are born from ignorance.

As for your second question, yes I do think so.Maybe its because I have constant contact with hookers that I find such profession dammning.Dying is a natural process, a part of life, so I find that more understandable when someone hunts or dies in that process.Fight, survival, scaveging for goods and foods, all of that is part of the human nature, assuming you are not doing anything illegal and using every useful part of the animal body, and killing as swiftly as possible, minimizing the pain and everything.And they are animals that were born in the wildlife.If you are not hunting something that is protected or is part of someone life, like a pet, that is their reality, of to be killed or to kill.You are not being exactly "cruel" to them in that regard.Its hard to explain this concept through writing.

As for prostitution, its not a natural thing, in my point of view at least, to sell your body for money.I mean, you can have sex with anyone you want as far as Im concerned, but putting a price on your body to see it being used without you REALLY concenting to it, just so that you get some money out of it, is..... denegrating.Constantly doing that, you end up becoming more of a thing than a person in most people eyes, and depending on your own personality, even in your own eyes.Every now and then, I pass on my way from home or going to the movies for example, on a specific street where there are hooker trying to "sell themselves" on the street, both woman and transgenders, and its just sad, for a lack of a better word. When you pass by, the street recks of piss, you see condoms throw in the streets(implying that sometimes they simply do the sex right there, in the corner of some street that is nearby).Once, going with my father to his work, I saw a hooker in the middle of the street that was bleeding from the waist down,crying and screaming of pain, probably due to some costumer that was extremely rough with him(it was a transgender).And that is the condition of most hookers.And to live in those conditions, with constant fear of being raped by a costumer or beaten nearly to death, in a workplace as dirty as that, is no way to live.There are worst things than death, and to live in those conditions, its no wonder that suicide is a thing.Oh, and its all legal mind you.Its not because a profession is legal, you are going to be treated kindly or have a nice, cozy workplace.

Im not saying I approve any of both activities, but betwenn two horrible choices, for a being that is not as sentient as us and kill or be killed is a part of his dialy life, having a clean death is the better choice in my opinion.