I completely agree with most of what you wrote, I did love watching dragon ball and dragon ball z as kid, but now I prefer to watch dragon ball, as it had better characters, more interesting settings and abilities, even the stakes were higher as getting the dragon balls were a difficult task, but in Z specially after freezer, death was nothing to worry about.
I simply can't understand the excitement of so many people watching Super. I simply think toriyama is too senile to continue the story, as it is worse tha lots of fanfics, completely forgetting what was canon giving powerups from his ass, like freezer becoming so powerful in 4 months of training, and training with someone as weak as ginyu for example, or having master roshi defeating tien easily, when Tien was stronger since the original dragon ball, and unlike all the other characters, he kept training and manage to stand against cell and suvive buutenks for a while in Z
monocle_layton said:
I think Naruto is the same. In the originals, you see amazing power, but there is still an emphasis on strategy and brainpower.
I definitely love the original the most, but I can't say I hate any specific part of Dragonball. It's still enjoyable to me. As long as it isn't as bad as the Kaguya arc, I can't complain
Also as monocle_layton said, Naruto suffer the same, but having the "ninja" theme I think it's way more noticible, specially since the viewers were introduced to high level nija fight in the first arc between zabuza and kakashi, and if you compare them to most characters in part 2, well zabuza look like fodder, even the hokage level fight looks weak as they still focused more on skill and techs instead of huge explotions
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