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Imaginedvl said:
SvennoJ said:

Actually the upcoming headsets are just VR. There is no headmounted camera to stream the real world nor is it see through. It connects to MS' new mixed reality platform, yet you'll still need a ($3000) hololens to actually get the AR experience.

Those 2 headsets ARE mixed reality ones. They can operate as VR or AR headset. 
They both have 2 sensors (front right and left) and uses the same technology for motion tracking and space recon. than Hololens which offers a real sense pf space and positioning in your room.  

I pre-ordered mine by the way and I have been following this for a while.
https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2017/05/11/windows-mixed-reality-dev-kits-available-pre-order/#4dZzEqqCtxa6HXZi.97

I also have an Hololens which is fully unthetered but I think those are still pretty neat (because they can do both and are cheaper) even if the immersion will not be as good as Hololens and holograms. Just because of the black for instance which a problem on Hololens or the fact that you can turn it in real VR headset if needed 



How can they operate as AR headsets if there is no way to see your surroundings while using the headset?

https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/11/15627374/microsoft-windows-mixed-reality-hands-on

I was most surprised by the actual experience of using this Mixed Reality headset. I was expecting a HoloLens setup, but it’s literally just virtual reality. You lift the visor to see the real world, but there’s no mixed reality here. It’s confusing that Microsoft has opted to call these headsets Mixed Reality. Microsoft has shown demonstrations of where these headsets map real space and putting virtual objects onto pass-through video, but I wasn't able to try this experience.


http://www.techradar.com/reviews/acer-mixed-reality-head-mounted-display

To be clear, the Acer HMD’s cameras cannot deliver a live view of the natural environment through its viewing lenses. Those cameras are purely for positional tracking, delivering Microsoft’s spec for its 6DOF, or six degrees of freedom, technology.

This, essentially, makes the Acer HMD a virtual reality headset, albeit the lightest and sharpest one we’ve tried yet.

It’s a bummer because it’s, to put it bluntly, missed potential. It also puts Microsoft’s definition of “mixed reality” into question. While we may expect mixed reality to “mix” the real and virtual worlds, much like the existing HoloLens does, that’s not what Microsoft is expecting from these devices. At least at first.


What does MS mean by mixed reality? I'm confused.



Btw:, it seems to me that this is the continuation of Room Alive

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/roomalive/

RoomAlive is a proof-of-concept prototype that transforms any room into an immersive, augmented, magical entertainment experience. RoomAlive presents a unified, scalable approach for interactive projection mapping that dynamically adapts content to any room. Users can touch, shoot, stomp, dodge and steer projected content that seamlessly co-exists with their existing physical environment.


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/28/microsoft-mixed-reality-first-look.html

I was able to walk around my virtual reality apartment, too, visiting different displays on the walls. In what appeared to be a small sitting area, for example, were three other screens. I looked into the room, pressed a button on the Xbox controller, and was suddenly teleported. Here, I had one display showing the weather, another with Microsoft's Edge web browser, and yet a third digital monitor with access to email. It was a digital office of sorts, and I spent some time scrolling through NASA's website as if I was looking at a real computer screen.

But why?


Except without the augmented part and a lot cheaper (no need for multiple projectors and 6 Kinect sensors)