2017 French Election (Macron Wins 66%)

[Alby_da_Wolf]

palou said:

Illusion said:

The left will assume that these results mean that this is a return to the old normal, but they will be wrong. There is no way somebody Le Pen would have gotten anywhere near 34% of the vote in a socialist country like France even just 2 years ago. The left should be listening very closely to the warnings of people like Le Pen and start moderating their policies, but instead Macron's victory will embolden Europe's leadership to go back to a "business as usual" attitude and work even harder to label dissenting views as "hate speech." This will backfire badly: Brexit and Trump are just the canaries in the coal mine for what is to come in the next 3 - 4 years, the left should pay close attention to the concerns of these people, writing them all off as nazi's and radicals will be their undoing.

Please stop using the terms left/right like uniform masses...

 

if you are for/against  immigration, censure, social redistribution, austerity, is to be viewed seperately, as they don't necessarily contradict each other.

 

If you oppose a specific idea, name it. Lumping all ideas (good or bad) together into 2 groups is an insult to the independant rationality of the individual.

People start being more independent in their opinions, but old parts of old parties still tend to lump a lot of ideas together as immutable monoliths. And this is one of the reasons why people are abandoning them.