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Mr Puggsly said:

Scorpio made a big upgrade on GPU so it will likely acheive 4K with greater ease.

If not. It can use fake-4k. Aka. Checkerboard.

Mr Puggsly said:

I'm not entirely convinced the only money MS gets is from the Windows license. Either way, you're supporting MS like it or not.

That's because Microsoft does make money outside of Windows licensing.

thismeintiel said:

You mean the general Xbox fan who used to love the 360 vs PS3 comparisons?  Where lack of grass in Mafia 2 was mocked?  The ones who mostly left or stayed quiet because they couldn't stand being on the other side of the argument?  Funny how I haven't seen any PS fans leave because of the Scorpio approaching.  Probably because we feel the same way as before.  Power is great, but means nothing without something to push it or an appealing price/identity. 

And thanks for "permission" to have the last word.  Of course, that doesn't really matter to me.  But, I will say this disscussion is over, even if you feel the need to respond.  Have a nice day. 

At the start of this generation it was pretty obvious that GDDR5 memory and the 50% more power was being rubbed in the faces of Xbox gamers.

During the Xbox Generation, Xbox gamers flaunted their technical superiority. (Pixel Shaders brings all the boys to the yard.)
In the Playstation 3 era, Playstation gamers flaunted their technical superiority. (Power of the Cell baby.)
This generation, Playstation gamers have Flaunted their technical superiority with the Playstation 4 (GDDR5z and 50% more powah.) and Playstation 4 Pro (Checkerboard).

Now Scorpio is superior verses the Playstation. That's life. I'm sure it will change around again in the future.
On the bright side... At-least the average joe is being educated about all the small PC terminology used for hardware like GDDR5 that they normally wouldn't know about.

In the end though. It doesn't matter. PC is clearly always going to be technically superior.


thismeintiel said:

I'm sure the CPU will be more capable than the Pro, but I imagine that is more to do with the overclocking than any radical change to the Jaguar cores.  There's a reason MS is pushing the clock so high.  And it's not because they customized the cores to get much more power per Hz than the Pro.  Just don't expect a 30FPS-40FPS game on the Pro to run at 60FPS on the Scorpio.  Probably be more like 45FPS.  Games that are closer to 60FPS,  like 50FPS-55FPS, on the Pro will probably hit it on the Scorpio, though.  At least more consistently.

I don't think you understand how insignificant a couple hundred megahertz is to CPU performance.
Jaguar is always going to be garbage, it's low-end, cheap, cost effective, energy efficient CPU architecture.
It was crap in 2013, it is crap today.
It's a common theme on console, they rarely take CPU performance seriously.

So instead of overhauling the crappy CPU core architecture to make it more capable which would have cost time, money, probably blown out Transister and TDP costs... You simply remove jobs that need to be done on it entirely, which is the entire point of moving a chunk of processing to the command processor.
That free's up a heap of limited CPU cycles to do other things.

That is where the bulk of the CPU gains will come from. The CPU cores themselves aren't dramatically overhauled.



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