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KLAMarine on 28 April 2017
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d21lewis said:
thismeintiel said:

My post was about ideas brought to gaming.  NOT what the XBO is offering, now.  Reading comprehension is a must.  But, for your sake, I'll address each point.

EA Access - Sorry, but I don't want EVERY gaming company to come out with their own "service."  Of course, this was EA's idea, not MS, so they get the credit and/or blame.

Bethesda Mods - Again, had nothing to do with MS, so Bethesda gets the credit for this.  Sure, MS is more open with them on their system, but they really aren't in the position to do otherwise.

Steam-like Refund Policy - The fact Steam is in the point shows where the credit should go.  Considering MS is trying to compete with Steam on PCs, its obvious why they have adopted this policy.  Still I can't knock them for doing it.

Xbox Game Pass - Their answer to PS Now.  I will say I prefer their method of actually downloading the games.  Of course, this also comes with the big disadvantage that you HAVE to have a XBO.

B/C - I think this is a pretty obvious one.  This idea dates back to Atari systems.  Nintendo HHs.  And PS brought it back as a standard for home consoles.  Unfortunately, the PS3 architecture doesn't allow the PS4 to have it.  I fully expect the PS5 to be B/C with the PS4, though.  This is one that's a nice feature to have, but in the big picture, as sales show, means nothing.

4K Blu-ray -  Another feature that's nice to have, but in the big picture, as sales show (yet again), means nothing.  Though, funny how you give MS credit for something Sony co-created with Philips.  Now, did you feel this was a big point in favor of the PS3 last gen against the 360's DVDs?  Or did you think it wasn't that big a deal?  Now, I'm guessing the PS5 will have a 4K Bluray player, but at this point in time, the interest in them is EXTREMELY niche.

Now, let's actually look at the things MS get FULL credit for bringing/trying to bring to the industry.

  • 24 hour check-ins to play your games
  • Not allowing you to sell or lend out your games
  • More restrictive policies for indie companies
  • Timed exclusivity for DLC
  • And if Spencer gets his wish, AAA games coming out in pieces you pay monthly for.  Basically, early access on consoles, with all its BS.

Like I said, lately they have brought nothing good to the industry.  In fact, it's exactly the opposite.  If not for Sony and the PS4, console gaming would have become a hell hole of restrictions.

Many of those things named aren't things Microsoft came up with--but then why isn't the competition doing the same?

Anyway, Microsoft was...

-The first to have a built in HDD (Xbox) -- technically PS2 offered a $100 HDD add on in 2001 but quickly dropped support. M$ went all in on Broadband and hard drive support

-The first to offer Achievements in their current form (Xbox 360)

-Online profiles aka Gamertags (Xbox 360)

-The first to support streaming apps (Xbox 360)

-They popularized downloadable games (XBLA)

- Snap (Xbox One) console multitasking

- Smart glass (Xbox 360 Companion app for smart devices)

-External HDD support (Xbox 360)

-Cross game chat (Xbox 360)

 

Sony isn't flawless, either. They have:

-A fair share of exclusive DLC last gen, too.  They were the only console that had Joker DLC for Batman Arkham Asylum, for example.

-A history of unsupported peripherals (though all companies have done this)

- Removed features from their consoles like backwards compatibility, USB ports, memory card readers, etc (PS3)

-Tried to charge a whopping $600 for their console (PS3) which caused the aforementioned removed features

-Forced players to pay insane amounts for proprietary memory cards (Vita)

- Forced to settle TWO class action lawsuits with gamers (PS2 Disc Read Error and Vita false advertising) as well as offering free games due to a month long PSN outage

 

You seem to hate Microsoft with a passion but they do some good things in the industry and for their fans. Even if some of the ideas didn't originate with them. At the same time, as good as Sony is, they aren't flawless. Try to be objective, here.

If I may, I'd like to add to that list: Sony's handling of No Man's Sky and The Last Guardian as well as their attempts to trademark "Let's Play", a phrase that is free for anyone to use for their YT vids was suddenly threatened by a for-profit corporation.

 

I'm going to guess thismeintiel was not terribly passionate in his condemnation of such maneuvers... He reserves his passion for Nintendo and Microsoft.