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Soonerman said:
Slownenberg said:

Yeah this two trainwrecks or the lesser of two evils thing never made sense to me. Sure plenty of people may not be super inspired by Hillary the way Obama inspires people, but two suggest that she would have been anything other than a thousand times better than Trump is just idiocy. She likely would have been a decent not great president, what we have now is the presidency of the united states being the greatest threat that exists to the future of this country.

Obama didn't inspire people. The outspoken and very loud liberal left that would have been behind Obama anyway made it seem like he was the greatest man in the world.

If you don't think Obama inspired many many millions of people they you weren't paying attention the past 9 years. Or you're too clustered in a outspoken very loud conservative far right bubble. Obama gets elected and most of America was hopeful. Trump gets elected and most of America is just hoping we get through this disaster.

Also a lot of liberals weren't happy with Obama because he wasn't nearly as liberal in governing as they hoped he'd be. He was much more of a centrist than any conservative will ever tell you because conservatives are so far off the edge of reality anything that isn't frankly insane right is a damn lefty liberal.