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What the shit is going on in this thread? Are either of these two arguments ever going to die?

Who cares about gens anymore? Gens have been out of sync for quite a while now. It's pretty much entirely meaningless. Nintendo could be on 'gen 10' before MS/Sony even release their first 'gen 9'.

People talk about PS4Pro and Scorpio like they are mainstream SKUs. They are not. They are niche products for a segment of the video gaming market who are interested in 4k or better performance in 1080p. That is not something most gamers are going to care about. Later down the road this is also about extending the life of the platform. When PS4Pro and potentially Scorpio are the only versions you can buy (4-5 years from now).

Scorpio is not going to 'save' the XBONE by itself just as PS4Pro didn't make the sizable lead PS4 already had over the others jump to lightspeed. As always it is pretty much all about the games and the price. MS needs to get more good exclusives otherwise no matter what they do with the hardware they won't catch up with SONY.



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