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bdbdbd said:
naruball said:

Fantastic post. I rarely read long posts, but this one was worth it. As for the comic, that was indeed quite funny. I think I have an answer, though I could be wrong. It all goes back to men being told not to express their feelings. There are so many expressions used from parents, friends, classmates that make men stay as far away from certain topics/fields as possible. Studying languages, philosophy and arts in general is condered "gay". Think of this scenario:

"Hey, man, what have you been up to?"

"You know what? I read some articles about male suicide rates and it turns out..."

"Ha gaaaay! I swear our generation is getting pussified. Just grow a pair."

How likely is that person to continue searching for these topics (and write an article or two) when the person he values so much (a friend at that age is the ultimate judge) dimisses it that way?

For some reason, I have never ran into that attitude you told about in your post.

You know, the post you liked described how you could support something that you don't even stand for, it was a very narrow view on the subject. If you support the movement, you support everything the movement stands for. Why would you join feministic movement to support something the feministic movement doesn't support, instead of joining a movement that supports the same things you do. The more diverse the movement is, the less it is driving the things you support (because of people have differing interests). If you join a movement to support things the movement doesn't support, it is still you alone supporting the things, only the difference is, that now you support it in the inside instead being on the outside.

That's a good point and I'm not just saying it. I mean it. I've thought about it. But the problem is that sometimes you can't find a group which represents your views 100%. It may be close to some of your views and with your involvment in that group, you can educate them on some topics (or you may find youself being the ignorant after all).You also likely find a lot of people who share yoru views but didn't speak up for x number of reasons.

I recently watched a documentary about LGBT rights in America. Gays and feminists (many of whom were lesbians) disagreed on a whole lot of things but they didn't achieve much until they started supporting each other. Them working together forced them to open up their eyes and start giving a damn about a different cause than their own; eventually they got the numbers to be able to make a difference.

As for the bolded, you may have without even realising it? I noticed it countless times in whichever country I lived. I intereacted with men (and women) from all sorts of countries and this was an extremely commin attitude. I think it's one of those things that you notice more if you identify it as a problem. For example you may not see racism around you when it doesn't affect you much or is a topic that never interested you all that much. It doesn't matter that's not occuring. Of course it also possible for someone to be obsessed with something to the point that that's all they see (especially with confirmation bias)