LurkerJ said:
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"I never understood this particular Islamic instruction. I don't understand many Islamic instructions, but this one in particular gets under my skin and makes me vomit, especially when most, if not all, Muslims living here in Europe defend it.
Why is apostasy's punishment is "undoubtedly" death? Especially when it comes to this "beaten to death student" kind of situations."
The reason it is undoubtedly so is because the Prophet ﷺ commanded it. When it comes to clear texts such as that one there isn't any room for interpretation or change, it is what it is. You say most, if not all - it should be all if they truly understand the religion.
"He grew up, he grew wiser, he realised Islam isn't right for him, and that he never decided to go into Islam in the first place, so him converting out of Islam shouldn't be considered converting "out" at all. He was a young cluess soul when he was told believe in Islam and he obeyed his parents like all kids do, he grew up and made up his on mind, like all of us do in all aspects of life and choose the path we believe that are right. Not the paths others tell us about (and this isn't exclusive to religion)."
Wiser, ha. Debatable. I really do feel sorry for the young guy, it pains my heart. The Islamic ruling for apostasy is death, but the ruling upon HIM was not death since he hadn't faced due process etc. I went through a long period of doubt earlier in life, that I now know was due to a complete lack of knowledge. I am grateful that I was given the chance to do better and truly mournful thinking about this young man who didn't.
"So even if I was a Muslim, and even if I believed that apostasy's punishment is "undoubtedly death". I wouldn't have asked for this student to be sentenced to death, or any other apostate for that matter."
Yes, in this specific case I agree.
"I am not stupid enough to believe that the entire Muslim population "chose" Islam. It was imposed on them, the majority of people are fine with that, but only a few of them grew wise enough to shed and reject what was imposed on them as little kids. Some drop out of college and start successful businesses and some drop out of Islam to get their heads chopped off? What kind of religion is that... give me a f******break. "
No, some are born into it etc. No one should be forced as that is expressly forbidden in the Quran, but in reality social pressure may force a few to feign belief to fit in etc - that is human nature. Your analogy is nonsensical since successful business and spiritual bankruptcy are not alike :)
