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Flilix said:
naruball said:

1. And a lot of people have a ps4 and an xb1 for the exclusives. Seriously. Ask users here. Even some of the biggest xb1 fans have a ps4 and/or a ps3. There is no proof that there are more ps4 owners with a wiiu or a switch or that that is going to change any time soon. But, anyway, at least you made it clear now that it was simply an assumption on your part.

2. There is a difference. Some games are popular but don't sell well for a number of reasons (e.g. last star fox game or last metroid game). My point is that not all of Ninty's IP are more popular/better selling than all of Sony's and/or MS's. Some are, some aren't.

4. Remove them and you still have plenty of popular games.

5. Yes, sales, but you're clearly cherry-picking. You didn't answer my question. Why only the top 30? What about all the other dozens if not hundreds of games that sell well on ps4 (and xb1) but don't make the top 30?

2. Nintendo has more IP's in general, and a lot of the most popular IP's are made by Nintendo (Pokémon, Mario, Super Smash Bros, ...).
Can you explain what you mean by popular? I define 'popular' as 'played by a lot of people'.

4. Not enough to keep a console alive. Wii U had more popular exclusives, and was a complete failure.
Switch will have more 1st party games than the Wii U, because it's Nintendo's only next gen console.

5. Because it takes less time to only do the top 30. Okay, fine...
17/100 for PS4, 15/100 for XOne, 43/100 for Wii U (due to the lack of first party games) and 77/100 for 3DS.

Ok, we're going in circles so I'll close with this last point.

It seems that you keep repeating the same point over and over again, i.e. that because ninty ips overall sell more than xb/ps, there is more reason to buy a ninty console as a second console. Ignoring that Ninty mostly makes cartoony/ non realiastic looking games that most gamers aren't interested in.

It also appears that you're one of the people who are under the impression that exclusives are the one and only reason to buy a console. They're not. Actually far from it. We buy them for the whole package: the brand (or the image), the controller, the price, the network and its stability, the prices of the games, the hardware, the deals one finds on its webstore, the fact that other friends have it, etc.

That's why Ninty consoles are to the average ps4 gamer (imo) far from the perfect second console. They offer an experience they're not interested in.